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The HELLDIVERS™^©®^³ 2 EULA is a god damn URL

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[–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 136 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Bonus rant: the webpage is one of those death row worthy websites that forces you into the localization it determines based on your IP address, rather than using the HTTP header that has been specifically defined for that purpose.

[–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 29 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The header defines the language, but laws follow political borders, so it makes sense. E.g. which country's eula would you show for a German speaker Germany, Austria or Switzerland?

[–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 39 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Language specifiers include country level variants - de-DE, de-AT, de-CH

[–] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I have my locales set on en-UK because I prefer to have English versions, easier to troubleshoot problems

I wish I could set it as en-FR for other things, like metric system and 24h clock, but you can't

[–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You can set that up separately, override LC_TIME: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Locale It's Arch wiki but this is usually the same for any other distro

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Lol we aren't in a Linux sub but nice shout

[–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sir, this is Lemmy, the default os is Linux here.

I checked the post history of @whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works and I saw they commented once in linuxmemes, so I assumed it's about Linux. Also on Windows it's much more easier to change this, there is another dropdown literally next to the language selector.

[–] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

You're right, I'm on linux, I'll try it out

[–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago

Afaik Bayern German is closer to Austrian German, than Hochdeutch. Hungarian doesn't have that kind of variants because the language is the same everywhere, but 1 million Hungarians live in neighbouring countries.

Do you expect every South American user to set that up correctly? What about languages without country, I guess you show the spanish version to basques living in France?

And I could continue if you want.

[–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As far as the content of the EULA, sure, use the laws of the request's IP address; the rest of the website, however, does not allow you to select a different localization, only the place of origin.

Furthermore, rarely do I see EULAs that aren't written in English, and it's not like the EULA in question is not a generic one translated for my country:

[...] [non] influiscono su eventuali garanzie o garanzie legali dell'utente in qualità di consumatore ai sensi delle leggi locali applicabili (ad esempio, diritti dell'utente in caso di malfunzionamento del Software)

Non-lawyerly translation:
[...] [do not] affect the legal rights of the user as a consumer accoring to local applicable laws (for example, the rights of the user in case of Software malfunction)

... which means either someone bothered localizing a generic EULA, or that excerpt is the legal version of "unless it's illegal idk im not a lawyer".

[–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It is translated, and the link correctly redirected me for my language, but I use the official language of the country I live in.

You can change the language if you scroll down, in the bottom left corner.

[–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You make a compelling case, however Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.5

[–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Akagigahara@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

It's a part of the header sent with every internet request. Standard thing to identify the user's language so you know which version to send

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wouldn't work for me: I'm French and I live in France, but all my devices are set to en_US.

[–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm Italian and live in Boot, all my devices are set to en_US and the websites that respect Accept-Language all work for me...

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but if the EULA is different from one country to another, they'd want me to see the French version and not the US one.

[–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

I thought so too at first, but my version seems to be made for multiple countries (even if it's not equally binding), so I assume the same is true for East-European countries;

then again, Snoy is notoriously stingy with countries allowed to have PSN accounts, maybe they do have country-tailored licenses, and use vague language such as "accoring to local applicable laws" only to muddy the waters in case they do get in trouble.
Or maybe their web devs just underpaid | micromanaged | burned out | lazy.