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[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Most Americans trust the republicans to harm immigrants more than they do the democrats.

Democrats cannot outflank the republicans from the right.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Democrats cannot outflank the republicans from the right.

Who says they need to outflank from the right? Literally all she has to say is that she'll do the thing the republicans wanted and tanked on Donnie dipshits orders. That's going too far as is for most left people on here, but it seems to be what the base wants, and all you really have to do is point out any of the myriad of times they've said something and done fuck all or intentionally killed it because it had democrats support.

Making the voters think the right is untrustworthy (because they are) has much more impact than trying to outflank.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Who says they need to outflank from the right?

That's what the democrats are trying to do when they agree that classical republican policies are actually good and we need to do them.

it seems to be what the base wants

The people who were pro-immigration in every election until like 2022, but now support mass deportation want whatever the democrats tell them they want.

For some reason, the democrats have been telling them they want republican policies.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

If meeting the republicans in the middle counts as trying to outflank them from the right, I don't think you and I can have a productive conversation. This is disagreement on the meaning of basic terms and I'm not willing to try to hash out what words mean today.

Good day.