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[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Jean Chretien, Shawinigan scandal.

Brian Mulroney, Airbus scandal.

Oddly, I couldn't find a really big thing for Stephen Harper, but there are many lists of smaller things he did that are objectionable to one degree or another. My biggest gripe was him calling coalition governments undemocratic. When your whole philosophy goes against working with other groups to achieve the goals of the citizens that you believe the whole concept has to be wrong, it says more about you than the people you're complaining about.

Justin Trudeau had the lavalin scandal, as well as some very hypocritical situations in the first year of his leadership, as well as either botching or throwing the voting reform promise.

Pierre Poilievre has already gone on the record as intending to pass laws he knows are unconstitutional, and using the notwithstanding clause to keep them in force, which, while not illegal, I feel is deplorable, and he isn't even in power yet.

I miss the days when conservatives fought for freedom and not control. I'm willing to admit the difference may be my perception and not their intentions.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal-elections/a-conservative-collection-of-harper-government-scandals/article_4766f17d-604b-577b-abee-581bd330b931.html

https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2015/08/10/Harper-Abuses-of-Power-Final/

Prorogating the parliament in order to keep the Conservatives in power by preventing an alliance of the other three major parties, i.e. going against democracy?

Silencing scientists?

Using G8 funds outside of the G8 premises to fund projects unrelated to the G8?

There's a whole bunch of scandals from the Harper era...

[–] i_love_FFT@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It just doesn't involve Montreal corporation, so it's not corruption, just sparkling scandals.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah, doesn't count unless Quebecois are involved or something

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Like I said, plenty of smaller scandals and ethics violations. Proroguing parliament was something the PM could always do, and it is only a delay, not a complete removal of the democratic process. I absolutely agree it was unethical and an abuse of power, but not necessarily on the scale of some of the other things I mentioned. I'm sure we could all pick our favorite abuse or scandal, there were plenty, and the aggregate could be argued is worse than any of the specific ones I listed for other leaders.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Eh... Yes it was a complete removal of the democratic process, the parliamentary system allows for parties that have a majority to form an alliance and form the government, just because it has never happened in Canada doesn't mean it can't and shouldn't. Harper decided to go against the democratic will of the majority and shut down the parliament instead. Then there's the robocall scandal (which led to prison), prisoner torture (which led to another parliament shutdown), meetings with the oil industry while writing a law that got rid of environmental legislations, millions spent to promote tar sand.

Them silencing scientists and their handling of environmental legislations killed people, it's not smaller scandals, they just managed to make it seem so by never talking to the press about anything while they were in power so people wouldn't pay them no mind.