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While I am not necessarily a fan of needlessly large trucks, I can buy an actual commercial transport vehicle or an actual bus and nobody would give a shit. You can get a 12 seat bus, drive it around alone all day long and never come up in these discussions. Hell, buy an RV of any size and you're off the hook.
And then this "despite safety fears" bullshit. When in the history of man has a car buyer been thinking: Hmmm, I wonder if other people would be safe around me when I drive this vehicle? Nobody gives a shit.
Car is about ME, not the people around me. This will never change. Making cars about YOU and your emotions is what their entire marketing is all about. You have to be incredibly naive to expect that it won't work.
I'm pretty sure it would come up if people started actually doing it en masse
Where I live, this is common and unnoticed. I see plenty of VW vans being driven by a mother on her way to the store after dropping off the kids at school. Maybe pickup trucks outrank those in other countries, but the mindset is all the same.
I'm not trying to apologize for trucks, but we need to expand our view.
Right, because a minivan is a high-hood vanity "utility" vehicle purchased by affluent individuals who never regularly carry a bunch of kids in them, but just want the appearance of a cool suburban soccer mom.
You've missed the point entirely.
I agree but they said vw van not minivan. Like the huge utility sized vans
Pretty sure you missed my point entirely as well. So I guess we're even
Your "point" was dumb and no one was willing to let you know. I didn't miss it, I dodged it.