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Get rid of Trudeau and Poilievre. Honestly, maybe Singh too. Just give us all new party leaders
Iβd take Singh in a heartbeat over the other two.
But we need a Kamala up here too.
Even if the Liberals somehow manage to find a credible, electable leader that doesn't end up being a Michael Ignatieff 2.0, I see no reason to trust that they won't deliver more of the same bullshit.
When it comes to leadership in American politics, it's said that democrats fall in love, and republicans fall in line.
I don't want to fall in love. The past decade of Canadian politics has been a parade of 'charisma' and it hasn't gotten us anywhere. I want a sincere and straightforward leader, who won't get embroiled in scandals, has a strong stance on foreign policy, a plan for foreign interference, the housing & affordability crisis, and an ability to deal with issues in a straightforward and policy-focused way. I guess what I'm trying to say is I want a prime minister with a short skirt and a long jacket.
I miss Tom Mulcair. He really was very good, but apparently people thought he was "angry" or somesuch nonsense.
And now we have petulant Millhouse as our next potential PM. Tell me about "angry Tom", again?
I always thought it was the terrible campaign quip that sunk him... I don't remember exactly but it was something like:
"Healthcare, Medicare, Mulcair..." and IIRC it received a LOT of groans at the time.
Mulcair also could never ever ever live up to the legacy of Jack Layton. If Jack hadn't been taken from us, we'd be looking at a very different Canada right now.
I am not sure Layton would be as good as people suspect: there's a big "die a hero or live long enough to become the villian" about his possible legacy.
He was a pretty good politician, and had a lot of charisma, but he was also responsible for toppling the Martin government despite knowing it would give us Harper. I wasn't the biggest Martin fan, but we were really close to some real improvements under Martin, and instead of leveraging that, Layton rolled the dice and the result was a lost decade for progressivism.
If I had my choice of recent NDP leadership possibles, post-Layton, I'd have opted for Charlie Angus.
Fair enough. But despite any possible repercussions, the play was to make the NDP a much bigger player than it had ever been, and he succeeded; under him, the NDP became the official opposition for the first time in it's history. If Layton were still around, and the NDP perhaps managed to retain the official opposition status, Canadian politics would have been forever changed. Instead we quickly reverted back to the Liberal/Conservative swap game every few election cycles.
I think regardless of the ultimate legacy of Layton, the status quo would have been shaken up. And at this point, any change is better than two entrenched and old political parties essentially power sharing every few years.
True.
I think the reason the federal Liberals even ran with Trudeau--instead of another technocrat like Ignatieff--is that the NDP under Layton scared them shitless. They were, for the first time in their history, looking down the tubes at irrelevancy. If the NDP got traction, they (the Liberals) would stop being the default ABC choice.
Especially the NDP inroads in Quebec. That was scary.
They'd already seen this happen in Alberta, and it was well under way in other provinces. They needed Trudeau or someone like him to shine them up, or they'd be gone by the next cycle.
I just like they everyone is NDO weβll ruin the country. Like the other two are not doing that.