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[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thank you for a good write-up. Much appreciated.

I still think Trump is such a well-known commodity now and all of this is nothing new. We've been talking about his "hidden voters" so much for so long that I actually think polls may be overcompensating a bit for that. Or at least they could be pretty well calibrated for it at this point. Guess we'll see in less than a month.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I still think Trump is such a well-known commodity now and all of this is nothing new. We’ve been talking about his “hidden voters” so much for so long that I actually think polls may be overcompensating a bit for that.

I would be ecstatic for that to be the case. Unfortunately, both the 2016, and 2020 polling disagree. But right now, the data we have at our disposal do not support that case.

I'm curious what you think pollsters are doing when you say:

Or at least they could be pretty well calibrated for it at this point.

Like, in stochastic modeling, you have to do things like having a truly random sample to develop your statistics on. Pollsters hands are kind-of tied in this regards and the data is mostly available for download. I'm curious if you think there is some kind of demographic weighting that you think pollsters are doing on the back end?

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, I definitely think pollsters are compensating for Trump's hidden voters by now. Like you say, they've had both 2016 and 2020 to get it worked into the polling. It's rare to get three tries to work it out. I'd be very surprised if they undercount it again.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago

I hope you've got the right of it.