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[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

RAM is the cheapest upgrade possible, unless you're trying to run a game on 8GB in 2023 idk why you'd be that concerned with RAM usage.

[–] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Perpetual software bloat should not be encouraged; idling at 2GB is fucking insane

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Compared to what? And based on what advancement of technology and software? What should it take? Cause we can strip features all day long until we get there.

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Compared to Linux which idle at half a gig with the most bloated DE. Hell, even Mac isn't that bad.

[–] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cause we can strip features all day long until we get there.

Good? Okay? We need more minimalism

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's an opinion, your OS can have whatever you want with however much bloat you want your hardware to have to handle.

[–] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

your OS can have whatever you want with however much bloat you want

No, it can't, because you can't remove the bloat, dummy, that's the entire point of the problem. People wouldn't care if they could just remove the bullshit.

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You want a Linux install to take up less RAM? Install a lightweight distro like Endeavor or regular Arch and go with an absolutely minimal build.

You want that with Windows? There are ISO's that have Cortana and other preinstalled bloatware already removed, etc. Or you can do the same with PowerShell post-install.

The more I hear Linux purists talk the more it's clear their knowledge of windows is either incredibly basic with no attempt to actually learn or fifteen years out of date. Usually both.

[–] ChiefSinner@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Me running on lxde using 512mb: 😎

[–] Deepus@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago
[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then you'll turn around and tell me to use Firefox even though Vivaldi runs on half the RAM.

Your guaranteed response?

"Well you have it, might as well use it!"

Cool, exactly how I feel about the OS. Who cares if it can't run on less than a GB. I gave 32GB and can't use all of it if I wanted to even with all my monitors full of applications. Don't see a difference in the argument.

[–] Estebiu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Why would you want to run your entire DE in under 500mb ram?"

"Cuz it's cool"

My arch install runs at 700mb without nothing opened. Yeah, I know I always have Thunderbird/firefox/telegram/mpv opened and my usage skyrockets to 10/11gb on medium, but knowing that my DE only occupies a very small portion of that is pleasant.

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Sure, if minimizing the amount of hardware your OS runs on is fun for you go ahead. I'm not trying to tell you it's wrong, I think it's badass.

It just isn't a factor in being "optimized for gaming" when the average system has 8-16GB to spare even under gaming load. That's like saying your car isn't "optimized for driving" based purely on MPG and eschewing all other metrics.

[–] drathvedro@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

RAM is the cheapest upgrade possible

Unless you use laptop with soldered-in RAM and insane pricing options.

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've never seen a laptop with soldered RAM, they've all been pop and swap in my experience.

GPU/CPU, yeah. Always soldered.

[–] drathvedro@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'll tell you more, there are even hybrids out there nowadays like this ASUS Pro Duo 15 SE with two sticks, one of which is soldered in. The Zenbook variant has both soldered in. And that's why I'm burning 300w of electricity typing this message on Zephyrus...

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

Trying on 6GB. As a Linux user I usually don't need more RAM, so haven't added any yet.