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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago

Did you think that was going to be some hard to find document? This is "Omagherd the Army did a fun run outside base, it's martial law!111!" levels of stupid.

That memo is for intelligence agencies under the DOD like DIA who interact with the FBI and local law enforcement all the time. They've been doing this for decades. This is not the Army. And the assistance being talked about here is not the Infantry showing up. It's literally just telling the local police if someone they pinged is on a watch list or is involved in international shenanigans.

Let's look at paragraph 3.2 and see what's covered.

Cooperating with appropriate law enforcement agencies to protect the IC’s employees, information, property, and facilities of any element.

That's self defense. It's literally authorizing them to work with local and federal police to protect federal property and employees. That's it.

Unless otherwise precluded by law or E.O. 12333, participating in law enforcement activities to investigate or prevent clandestine intelligence activities by foreign powers or their agents, international terrorist activities, or international narcotics activities.

Counter intelligence. A core capability of every intelligence agency we have. The only one barred from operating on US soil is the CIA. But even then I've highlighted where this isn't a blank check. You still need to follow the laws.

Providing specialized equipment, technical knowledge, or assistance of expert personnel for use by any Federal department or agency, or when lives are endangered, to support State and local law enforcement agencies. The Defense Intelligence Component’s legal office, subject to Paragraph 2.2.c., will approve assistance from expert personnel in each case.

Ah yes, the terrorism clause. Requiring legal's sign off to work with the locals even in the event of a terrorism. (I know what I said) This is as useless as the time I'm taking to write this because finding an incident that would require the attention of an agency like the DIA without there being federal jurisdiction is incredibly hard. They'd already have the FBI on the ground, who they can work with freely.

When lives are in danger, rendering any other lawful assistance to law enforcement agencies or other civil authorities provided such assistance is consistent with, and has been approved by an official pursuant to Section 2 of this issuance. Such official will ensure that the legal office of the providing DoD Component concurs in such assistance.

Rendering lawful assistance. Yup that sounds like extrajudicial killings to me. Lol, no. Just no. This just means that I'm the case of something like a barricade stand off they can go ahead and share things like profiles of the person with the police.

Dissemination of intelligence information where such information may be relevant to a violation of any Federal or State law within the recipient’s jurisdiction, in accordance with Section 271 of Title 10, U.S.C.

Oh no, not dissemination of information! The horror!

Disseminating lawfully collected information reasonably believed to indicate a violation of Federal, State, local, or foreign laws, in accordance with the August 22, 1995 Memorandum of Understanding between the DoD and the Department of Justice, or other applicable memorandums of understanding.

Oh no, not more information!! Whatever will we do with these rogue intelligence agencies?

Please stop listening to InfoWars or whoever is selling you on these takes. They're lying to you.