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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

What would make a "bold climate agenda"?

[–] msage@programming.dev 27 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Fuck cars. Support public transport.

Fuck private planes.

Stop meat and milk subsidies, add extra taxes instead.

No more fossil energy anywhere.

Even that little is bold.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

That is pretty much the agenda of every Green party anywhere. With the last point usually taking a decade or so, but still.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_party

[–] sinkingship@mander.xyz 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Read the Wiki and well, I dont know. It may be a climate agenda, but in my opinion being green isn't necessary being bold.

Bold would be meeting at least what scientist recommend: halving emissions by 2030. I know, that's very much to ask for any country in the world. That's why it's called bold.

What green parties all over the world are doing is: turn the rudder away from fossil fuels towards renewable energy. Which is a step in the right direction, but I think that's not bold. It's the least one can do.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 weeks ago

There are some. Plaid Cymru has net zero until 2035 in the manifesto for example. The Finnish Greens even go for carbon neutral by 2030. There are probably more, which in effect would end up in a similar situation. After all the current EU emission target would be a 41% reduction by 2030(55% reduction by 2030) compared to 2022.

[–] aniki@lemmy.zip -2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 weeks ago

This current one is very much including countries outside of the US and Green Parties have been and actually are in government in a number of countries. Also those parties are mostly not Russia friendly at all.

[–] altec@midwest.social 2 points 3 weeks ago

Stop subsidizing corn. A crazy amount of US crops just get turned into animal feed or ethanol.