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Prominent Muslim Democrat Demands Answers After Being Kicked Out of Harris Rally in Michigan
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They don’t want her to ask nicely for a cease fire. They want the US to pull all support and funding from Israel until the genocide is stopped indefinitely.
Or since she can't make that happen currently, at least say that's something she's considering. Or even just that she disagrees with Biden at all on the war.
lol seriously. Just say you WANT to pull funding from Israel if elected. Like bitch, you don’t even have to actually do it to secure this election. The fact that she doesn’t seem to even be able to entertain the idea says a lot about what she plans to do if elected.
Lol.
Which won't happen. They didn't need our help starting the genocide and it will continue without our help.
No they cannot continue it without America's help.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-09-02/ty-article-magazine/.premium/without-u-s-aid-israel-would-have-struggled-to-fight-in-gaza-beyond-a-few-months/00000191-aec2-d875-a3bb-aed7e2e30000
America is the only reason Iran and other countries have not yet attacked Israel themselves. And America is what's holding the Houthis at bay and not allowing them to be a larger threat to Israel.
You're both right by the way.
Israel can continue with or without America's help.
You said it yourself.
Iran is technologically and militarily inferior to Israel. An open war between Israel and Iran ends inevitably with the collapse of Iran as we know it. They only people in Iran who don't know that to be true beyond any doubt are insane religious nutters who aren't being objective. That's why Iran's direct, retaliatory responses have been so tepid and ineffective; first they shot down their own passenger airliner, then they spent billions on ballistic missiles and only killed two people, and one was Palestinian. Iran is fragile.
They're ike Mitch KcConnel or Liz Cheney, Mike Pence, they spent so much time and effort whipping up even crazier hardliners in order to stay in power (including Hamas, Houthis, and Hezzbollah) that now Iran risks being over taken by actual hardliners at the first chance, who might do something stupid like turn fissile material into a weapon or launch a ground invasion at Israel.
The general United States response in either of these scenarios is not much of a secret. You can read all about it if you like to read think tank material. The plan has two parts: Iran will not build a nuclear weapon no matter the cost, and an Iranian invasion force mobilizing on Israel will be met and utterly crushed by the 1,600,000 ground troops the Pentagon plans to send in this scenario. Iran knows all this.
That's why their direct retaliation has been so tepid, so incompetent and ineffective. First they got jumpy and shot down their own civilian airliner, then they spent billions on ballistic missiles and only killed two people, and one was Palestinian!
If the moderates in Israel start to think they might have a chance, nothing is left stopping Iran from building a nuclear weapon or invading Israel. In either case, remember, Israel is still a superior military force and will turn Tehran into a sheet of glass before one Iranian boot reaches Jerusalem.
Only obvious know nothings have hot takes on this that don't account for these realities.^^
In either path leading to the collapse of Iran, millions of innocent people will die and The world will be wishing we were back to the days it took a year to see 50,000 dead because then it will be likely be 50,000 every day. Going to make Netanyahu look like Ghandi.
The Iran Nuclear Deal was the world's last best chance at peaceful intervention. The only thing America can do now is make promises to Iran that we hope we don't have to keep and unfortunately, the Likud party in Israel has found a way to exploit that fact. Luckily, Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East, so something can be done about it.
No, it's because America is holding a gun to their head saying "Try Something, we dare you." Can Israel beat Iran in a fight? Maybe. Can they occupy it? Definitely not, they're struggling to occupy Gaza and Lebanon who are being defended by militia groups. Iran is too big and has too big a population to be occupied by only Israel. And let's not even get into what their neighbors would do. Even their biggest friend, Saudia Arabia, has starting telling Israel to not use their airspace and not target certain Iranian targets. Israel and Iran fights, it becomes a regional war. And the entire region hates Israel with a passion, so it's not a stretch to think Israel would fight a lot more than Iran in that kind of war.
Where'd you get that number from? That's much more than half of the entire size of the US military. I highly doubt they would deploy that number of troops to a single area in any conflict.
Netanyahu would be Hitler in this case. Creating a regional, or even a world, war in the name of race superiority and ethnic cleansing. Oh wait, he's already doing that never mind.
Calling Israel a democracy is a bit of a stretch IMO. A healthy democracy doesn't limit journalistic integrity as well as imprison and kill journalists who speak up. Israel is pretty radicalized thanks to the culture of propaganda the government has propped up and uses. If you're constituents can't actually make informed decisions because you limit what they can know. Then it's not a proper democracy.
They absolutely can, because like I said elsewhere, sniper bullets for kids are shockingly cheap.
True, but how long can Israel snipe kids down when they're engaged on multiple fronts from different countries and militia groups throughout the middle east? I can guarantee you if it wasn't for America's promise to join Israel in the war if it comes to that Israel would be facing a lot more than Hamas and Hezbollah.
And in your view, that'd be a good thing?
Please tell me more about your humanitarianism.
I never said it was a good thing, please don't put words in my mouth.
See that period after the first sentence with the squiggly line above it?
You have no idea what’s going on but felt the need to comment in support of enabling genocide anyway eh?
Nothing I said supports genocide, simply pointing out how your arguments will not stop the genocide.
If you want to be serious about stopping the genocide, there's really only one answer... armed intervention in Israel, arrest Netanyahu and all of Likud, and put them through a war crimes trubunal. But nobody has the political capital or willpower to pull that off.