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[–] skulkingaround@sh.itjust.works 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

What is going on in this comments section? Building dense is massively better for the environment than SFH, both in the construction phase and for the life of the units as far more residents can be served with less infrastructure sprawl. It also doesn't mean that detached housing will suddenly stop existing if we let developers build densely packed housing. Doesn't even need to be high rises, it can be townhomes, duplexes, five-over-ones, etc. You'll still be able to get a white picket fence suburban home or a farmhouse on some acreage if you want. In fact, it will become cheaper because all the people who want to live in cities will actually be able to move there and not take up space in that low density area you want to live in.

[–] Fried_out_Kombi@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's the same attitutes that cause drivers to oppose public transit, despite the fact that public transit means less traffic. More dense housing options mean fewer people competing for the same low-density sprawl and farmland. Everybody wins by allowing more density to be built, instead of continuing our current model of government-mandated sprawl for all.

[–] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From an ecological POV I'm not so sure on the word density. More dense buildings, yes, but even more dense urban areas (read: than Paris/London) can lead to sealing of soils, UHI, recreational under-supply.

Sprawl is awful, too, and SFH is a luxury.

[–] Sodis@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

There is a sweet spot in population density for cities. I am not sure about the exact number, but you get it, when building houses, that have four or five stories.

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