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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

She’s far closer to the right side of history than Biden.

So which of her policies regarding Israel differs from his?

[–] APassenger@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The Palestinian one. Do the research on her private conversation with Netanyahu

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

So she's totally doing the right thing behind the scenes?

Yeah, I hear that plenty about Biden.

[–] aalvare2@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Doing the right thing behind the scenes is the kind of action that lead to the Russian hostage exchange, the satisfaction of the rail worker unions after the railroad strike, the steady increase in student loan relief after SCOTUS shut down the blanket 10k handouts, and the duping of republicans into getting the chips act passed.

I personally believe in their capacity to do the right thing behind the scenes, just like I believe in the other side’s capacity to do the wrong thing behind the scenes.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

People who are fine with genocide have no reason to distrust Biden, and no need to see actual daylight between him and Harris. He's already doing everything centrists want in public.

And I asked which of her policies differs from Biden's. Policies are publicly held. Not "Trust me bro it's totally opposite day behind the scenes."

[–] aalvare2@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

And I asked which of her policies differs from Biden's

I was addressing the comment “I hear that plenty about Biden” and pointing out that the Biden administration has taken action behind the scenes, at least on a number of other issues.

I also have reason to believe that whatever behind-the-scenes talks are happening concerning Israel are pro-preace, because otherwise the US would be throwing enough military weight behind Israel that Palestine would be finished by now.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Nevertheless, there's no difference in public policy, and "trust me bro" is not an answer to "how do they differ?" because "trust me bro" was the answer when people were upset at Biden for his unconditional support for Netanyahu's genocide.

I do not trust Biden, and I do not trust his acolytes when they tell me to trust anyone else. Because his acolytes were all in on genocide and still are.

[–] aalvare2@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

his unconditional support for Netanyahu's genocide

Biden has not given any “unconditional support for Netanyahu’s genocide”, because again, if that were the case, then Netanyahu’s mission would be over by now

[–] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Sitting around and doing nothing (but providing weapons and cash) while Israel kills children looks like unconditional support to me

[–] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 months ago

What action has the administration taken? Israel is still killing children in Gaza

[–] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 months ago

"He wants to fix it but he has no leverage"

That's their fallback "argument"

[–] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 months ago

Biden's administration has done NOTHING useful for Gazans

[–] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 months ago

That's what they've said from the beginning of this whole mess. Then they've sat back and let Israel do whatever the fuck they want

[–] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If it's private then how can we research it?

[–] APassenger@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It was reported on.

Use a search engine. This thread started with an assertion she's the same. That's the assertion to prove.

[–] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If it was a private conversion then how can a reporter know it's true?

[–] APassenger@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If a concern troll falls in the forest and no one is there to observe it, are they still concerned?

[–] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 months ago

If the conversation was actually private then a reporter wouldn't know about it

But, assuming such conversation happened, what actions and results have come from it?

Israel continues to kill children in Gaza without consequence. Netanyahu arrived in the US and was applauded in Congress by (nearly) everyone present (in both parties).