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[–] kindenough@kbin.earth 34 points 2 weeks ago (19 children)

Isn’t this common knowledge for at least a 200 years, Edward Jenner, Louis Pasteur…vaccines and all? Microdosing to boost immunity…

Then centuries later idiots took it too far and started pox and measles party’s. My idiot parents did.

[–] MaximilianKohler@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (16 children)

Yes, common knowledge that is actually dangerous misinformation. Debunked: https://humanmicrobiome.info/faq/#is-dirt-good-for-your-microbiome

I don't think it compares well to vaccines.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (9 children)
  • Dirt has pathogens that are only harmful.

Stopped there. Because that's how your immune system learns.

And the bit with heavy metals is bull. Just don't let them eat a ton of dirt of vineyards (copper).

[–] Reshirams_Rad_Slam@mastodo.neoliber.al 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

@MonkderVierte @MaximilianKohler You should've read the rest of the page then like the first one xdd
Dirt is contaminated by harmful heavy metals and other toxic pollutants
The known beneficial microbes are the host-native ones that are passed down generationally via vaginal birth and breastfeeding. Microbes that you pick up from the environment are not the same and are more likely to be harmful.
Antibiotics are one of the primary things you want to avoid if you're worried about your microbiome

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

You're confusing gut Microbiome with immune system? Sure, it plays an important role in immune reactions but it's not the same.

Playing in is not dirt eating, it's dirt tasting. That bit of heavy metals pales in comparison to even one year living.

[–] Reshirams_Rad_Slam@mastodo.neoliber.al 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

@MonkderVierte Another red herring changing goalpost. Where do you think both reside?

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Nothing red herring. You know how the immune system learns? By being confronted with bad actors. Too less bad actors, your body becomes the target.

About the gut microbiome: bad bacteria can only take over, if there's a hole in an already established biome or if it's generally weakened. But then that's a huge issue, you're usually in a sterile tent in a hospital, fed intravenously. A baby already has a healthy microbiome.
It's not about the microbiome, it's about the immune system. Think of them as separate entities, even though they are heavily intertwined.

Where do you think both reside?

Gut bacteria: gut

Immune system: gut, veins, mostly bone marrow tho.

[–] MaximilianKohler@lemmy.world -4 points 2 weeks ago

It's dangerous misinformation, regardless of how you want to phrase it. You do not need to eat dirt or play in dirt.

[–] Reshirams_Rad_Slam@mastodo.neoliber.al 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

@MonkderVierte @MaximilianKohler Eating dirt and practicing poor sanitation increases your odds of contracting an infection and needing antibiotics.

So much commitment for just a hypothesis

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't infections lead to producing antibodies?

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

They might also disfigure, disable, or discontinue you entirely. Like polio.

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