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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Course they are. It won't net them a single Republican vote, but they get to experience the sheer joy of throwing a vulnerable population under the bus.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I have the impression quite a few Democratic voters are a bit anti-immigrant too.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 14 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I don't have the numbers, but to many Democrat voters lax immigration policy and generally better treatment of immigrants is the reason they vote democrat. The Dems are losing a good amount of public goodwill by doing this.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't want lax immigration policies. I want consistant immigration policies. I like the crack down on businesses taking advantage of illegal immigration and supporting legal methods.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean sure, but this was supposed to be one of the core differences between Democrats and Republicans that the Dems just threw in the trash, along with the voters this difference got them.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't think they threw it in the trash just because its not the only thing they do. Its a large and complex issue. Its like I understand even border security actions but walls are stupid and problematic and make no sense given modern times. Now granted the article is about rhetoric but I expect them to do the same things we have seen them do in the past which has largely been effective.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Now granted the article is about rhetoric but I expect them to do the same things we have seen them do in the past which has largely been effective.

I mean the Biden administration signaled a massive shift from what they've been doing in the past, which is what I was referring to by lax policies, and Harris went further than that to get Republican voters' support.

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago

This shift is because we need the GOP to vote for anything that gets passed. They will not vote for a pathway to citizenship. They will not vote to protect DACA recipients. They will not vote to do the things that actually need to be done, that Democrats have proposed. So the only thing leftover is enforcement measures, some of which are still needed.

Doing nothing is acceptable to the GOP and they have the votes to make that happen. We need to get rid of them, that's the solution here.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 weeks ago

Nobody I know is asking for lax immigration policies. We want more judges to process the cases in a timely manner. We want migrants to be treated humanely during that process - given shelter, care, and not separated from their children. We want border control to have the resources necessary to deter unauthorized entry, and ensure authorized entry is available to those who need it.

These are not radical desires, it's about fixing the completely overwhelmed systems already in place. It should not take years to determine if someone was qualified to enter.

Or, we can go with trump's approach of denying everyone entry by default, detaining and separating their families, and sorting out the details never.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

No doubt it is for many. They're probably going to vote Democrat even if they find the candidate's stance on immigration unreasonably harsh because [insert long rant about plurality voting and the two-party system].

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 weeks ago

Sure but anyone who votes based on their hatred for immigrants will always go Republican simply because they are more openly fascistic on this issue.