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Europe’s Greens ask Jill Stein to pull out of US election to prevent Trump victory
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Well, start here at a dinner she attended in Moscow in late 2015:
Years later, after Trump was elected, she claimed it was just perfunctory, with no real interaction with Putin. She also claims she received no payment for being there, although we know Flynn received 45k from Putin for his attendance.
Then there is this from 2016 about Russian efforts to divert Clinton voters to stein. She also received intense press coverage by RT, Russians propaganda TV station, that was not banned in the US at the time.
Here she is refusing to call Putin a war criminal, a stance she suddenly recanted days later.
Here is evidence she is currently working with the GOP.
Thank you for the well cited reply! Scary.
According to the lesser evil logic receiving money from putin is still less evil than being a fascist or being supporting a genocide.
Coordinating directly with Putin, the oligarch dictator of Russia, who is currently engaged in a genocide in Ukraine, to elect Trump, a US presidential candidate that has told Israel it "needs to finish the job," a person whose son in law has said gaza is "excellent beach front property," and who hid the number of drone strikes and their casualties caused during his admin, is the lesser evil?
I'd call the above stupid, not its far to disingenuous to be an actual real perspective.
Like it or not that still lesser evil than being a fascist who said israel “needs to finish the job” or being actively fueling a genocide by sending israel fascist government "whatever it needs".
Lesser evil logic, you vote for the lesser evil.
This is nonsense.
FPTP voting means there are 2 viable options only. If you don't vote for the "lesser evil," you are voting for the "greater evil."
Choosing to not make a choice is still a choice. Voting for "not Harris" is the exact same thing as voting for "yes Trump" in our system.
You're voting for the greater evil by voting for Jill Stein, which is exactly what her and her partners Putin and Trump want.
Yes the lesser evil logic is non sense.
Don't think of it as evil then.
Either the Democratic or Republican candidate is going to get elected, full stop. You can choose to help or hurt the person who is closest to your views.
If you choose to help Trump, you are assisting:
Internment camps:
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-does-not-rule-out-building-detention-camps-mass-deportations-2024-04-30/
Political prisoners:
https://www.npr.org/2024/10/21/nx-s1-5134924/trump-election-2024-kamala-harris-elizabeth-cheney-threat-civil-liberties
Invading Mexico:
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/donald-trump-mexico-military-cartels-war-on-drugs-1234705804/
Accelerating the genocide in Gaza:
https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/04/politics/trump-israel-comments/index.html
Abandoning our allies:
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/republicans-blast-trump-over-threat-abandon-nato-allies-2024-02-12/
And turning Ukraine over to Putin:
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-ukraine-putin-zelenskyy-0f4d539aa73a943474d779716e5fe42a
That's your brainwashed belief, a third party could get 100% votes
As for your points:
USA has a long and shady list of political prisoners, check: "PACE hearing on Julian Assange's detention and conviction and their chilling effects on human rights"
The genocide in gaza is already at full speed, it need to be stop not to be accelerated or kept the speed it is.
NATO is a terrorist organization led by USA. No red or blue party will ever disband it if not to create a bigger and more malicious organization https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio
USA has been competing with Russia over world domination for a century, the current war and crisis in ukraine is fueled by the two empires who respectively took side one against the other and that both profit and gain power through war. USA military facilities around the globe (thousands in europe alone) didn't stop working for a second when trump was elected and neither will regardless of who win this round.
No third party has won a single electoral college vote in my lifetime. More EC votes have been awarded by mistake than have been won by a 3rd party.
Lololololol
And tomorrow Elon musk, mark Zuckerberg, and Jeff bezos will all three decide they don't deserve their money and give it all away.
Actually that'd be far more likely than a third party candidate getting even 30% of the vote.
Btw great third party candidates, especially the obvious Russian asset who admits she's just looking to take votes from Harris.
But everyone is a super-moron so I'm sure everyone will believe you