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[–] shadowfax13@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

someone who has been let down by the “leftwing” candidates before election ? only time when voters have any leverage.

[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Wrong. We have leverage in the local party board voting. We have leverage in the local municipal elections. We have leverage in state legislature and governor elections. We have leverage in the primaries.

Once the primaries are over, we have no leverage and we should do all we can to prevent the fascists from winning at all costs.

[–] shadowfax13@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

we should do all we can to prevent the fascists from winning at all costs.

agree, we can’t let fascism win at any cost. even at the cost of an election that requires unconditional support from its voters for a genocide.

[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Your logic is: defeat fascism by letting the fascists win?

[–] shadowfax13@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

is there a choice ? you said primaries are over and we got two fascist candidate from both parties who want to murder innocents as long as it benefits them ?

[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The Democrats aren’t fascists, you nimrod.

[–] toomanypancakes@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nah, they're just hyper capitalist and encourage working with fascists. Totally different.

[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Better than outright fascists.

[–] knightly@pawb.social 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Well, for one thing, my Mexican, gay and trans friends don’t have to be worried that they’ll be rounded up and deported or worse.

Of course it’s not ideal. But we have to play the hand we’re dealt. And we were dealt a two party system.

And until you’re ready to go up against tanks and fighter jets and bunker busters and knife missiles, I don’t see how you guys can just sit there and complain. Start your revolution already, if you think you can win.

Or just fucking vote, you goddamned babies!

[–] knightly@pawb.social 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, for one thing, my Mexican, gay and trans friends don’t have to be worried that they’ll be rounded up and deported or worse.

I'm gay and trans and one of my partners is Puerto Rican. Biden intensified Trump's border and deportation policies: https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/mar/08/alejandro-mayorkas/has-biden-deported-more-people-in-nine-months-than/

Of course it’s not ideal.

"Not ideal" would be if they were merely as bad as Republicans. Pretending to be on our side while being worse than the Republicans is a real feat.

But we have to play the hand we’re dealt. And we were dealt a two party system.

If someone tries to force you into choosing between bad and worse, the correct response is not to pick the lesser evil, it is to spit in the face of both your captors.

And until you’re ready to go up against tanks and fighter jets and bunker busters and knife missiles, I don’t see how you guys can just sit there and complain. Start your revolution already, if you think you can win.

Or just fucking vote, you goddamned babies!

Calling people names when you're trying to get them on your side doesn't seem very effective..