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Who are the good guys in the Israel/Palestine conflict? (lemmy.world)

submitted 2 weeks ago by Greyfoxsolid@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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I genuinely do not know who the bad guys are. S lot of my leftist friends are against Israel, but from what I know Israel was attacked and is responding and trying to get their hostages back.

Enlighten me. Am I wrong? Why am I wrong?

And dumb it down for me, because apparently I'm an idiot.

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

1910s Irish republicans,

Wait really? I thought terrorism was more of a Troubles tactic.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

The brits set up a giant military garrison in northern Ireland called the Plantation of Ulster in the 1600s, and used it to turn nearly the entire population of Ireland into slaves, and project english military might onto Ireland and colonize it for hundreds of years. They have always labelled resistance to their imperialist project as "terrorism".

The british army should absolutely be the ones labelled as terrorists, not the ones opposing them.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 10 points 2 weeks ago

It is rather ironic that all he fighting the Irish did, blowing UK's corpo assets turned out to be the most effective one.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 15 points 2 weeks ago

I actually deliberately avoided mentioning the Troubles because I wanted to bring up cases where everyone today could fairly uniformly agree that we were discussing freedom fighters more than terrorists. Too many today would still say that the Provisional IRA were the bad guys (or at the very least that they were "as bad as" the other side). But the point I wanted to make was how given enough time, even terroristic actions can end up being viewed on the whole as coming from the "good guys", if their cause is viewed as just.

I could also have mentioned American revolutionaries.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 4 points 2 weeks ago

Blowing up money changers offices is terrorrism?