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I’m an Environmentalist. That’s Why I Can’t Vote Green. | Award-winning filmmaker and director of Gasland Josh Fox on why he will never vote for Jill Stein. (www.thenation.com)
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[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 week ago (10 children)

What??? When did that happen? Source?

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

Weeks ago.

A quote from Sawant at the Stein rally:

We are not in a position to win the White House, but we do have a real opportunity to win something historic. We could deny Kamala Harris the state of Michigan. And the polls show that most likely Harris cannot win the election without Michigan.

Edit: forgot to.drop some links for you. Here you go:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2024/10/09/abandon-harris-stein-michigan-arab-american-voters/75561456007/

In her own words, the so-called socialist who is hoping for a trump win: https://www.workersstrikeback.org/news-analysis/kshama-sawant-speech-10-15

[–] Not_mikey@slrpnk.net -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So not Jill stein, and not an official in the green party. Further down there a quote from a kamala supporter that sums this up better:

"So she's in trouble in Michigan, and it's not because of Abandon Biden," Zogby said. "It's because Democrats abandoned Arab Americans. They stopped talking to them."

The democrats took the Arab vote for granted in Michigan and are suffering the consequences and instead of changing there policies or accept that there policies are alienating voters and move on they just blame stein and pretend she's pulling away potential Kamala voters from the camp, when in reality those people had already left the camp after being ignored and were just not going to vote for either.

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago

A Jill Stein event, in a speech by a Stein supporter introducing Stein.

Too bad, this is Green. They are not a party of progressives.

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