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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 76 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Because committing crimes, including felonies, shouldn't prevent you from being involved in politics, because you're still impacted by politics.

Trump, on the other hand, is an extreme case, because his felonies including trying to stop the transfer of power and do a coup to install himself permanently in power. To me, those are more solid reasons to say he shouldn't be able to vote again, way moreso than just being "a felon."

EDIT: Just want to say, I think others are correct, he should still be allowed to vote, but he should be disallowed from running for office. That's a more clear and reasonable way to look at it, I think. Thanks folks.

[–] missingno@fedia.io 24 points 1 week ago (4 children)

If felons should be allowed to vote, I don't think it's worth carving out an exemption for one particular felon. His vote is a drop in the bucket anyway.

What's more important is that this felon should not be allowed to run for office.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

It’s not an exemption for one person if you say that a felony related to undermining an election stops you from being able to vote. I think that’s fair enough.

[–] dufkm@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

His vote is a drop in the bucket anyway

We are all just drops in the bucket on this blessed day.

[–] bananahammock@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

If the people want a felon, give them a felon.

That truly is the crux of the issue.

I fully support his being eligible to vote, regardless of past convictions, even if they were for treasonous, seditious behavior.

He should not be eligible to run for office.

Convicted felons should be eligible to vote, whether in prison or not, because as you said, anyone still affected by politics should have a voice. This also includes children, undocumented immigrants, and resident aliens. Anyone living here is impacted by the choices of our representatives and should therefore be able to vote for those representatives. Physical presence should be the only requirement.

[–] MrVilliam@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

It's almost like there should be a law against somebody like him running for office. Oh wait, there already is, and it's been on the books for 150 years to keep Confederate traitors from holding office. 14th amendment, section 3.

It's fucking insane that he's even on ballots after what he did.

[–] tja@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

The problem is: if he for some reason is elected, he could then invent reasons why other people should not be able to vote or be elected. Or just claim that there are reasons

[–] Breezy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fuck no he shouldnt be allowed to vote nor run for president. This is how we get hitler 2.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So anyone who's been found guilty of a crime shouldn't be allowed to vote even though once they're out of prison they still pay taxes? Taxation without representation? You don't think they might be interested in voting for people that would have made it so they might not have committed a crime in the first place or that might push for rehabilitation instead of pure punishment or that might be against private prisons?

[–] Breezy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Uh he tried to have a coup. Disqualified! And if you disagree, well you're Disqualified too.