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[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 118 points 23 hours ago (80 children)

This is happening all over the world. The USA are just a little further ahead compared to Europe.

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 32 points 23 hours ago (8 children)

That's true, but whataboutism doesn't help much in a thread about the US election. Besides, in hardly any other democratic country in the world is the far-right or fascist candidate so obviously completely unsuitable: Trump has already been president and has previously made policies contrary to the interests of the idiots who voted for him; he has a criminal record for fraud and has been found guilty in various proceedings for many other crimes, such as sexual harassment, defamation and fraud amounting to millions. It doesn't get any more obvious than that.

[–] Ofiuco@lemmy.cafe 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Errr... México says hi, we elected the fascist one by a huge landslide and it's been doing fascist things since day 1 so... Even when it's extremely obvious, people will still pick the worst one if it has enough astrosurfing behind them.
We're doing shit about it too, still acting as if the fascists party would listen to reason and not as their cult leader tells them to.

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm from Germany and here, too, the fascists are unfortunately on the rise again - despite our terrible past. I realize, of course, that you can't talk sense to them because they simply ignore arguments and cling uncritically to the lies of their leaders. Nevertheless, I think the situation in the USA is somewhat different, because Trump was already president in pretty much everyone's lifetime and has only made policy for the super-rich; he has also been convicted of fraud several times and has also enriched himself from the general public (the list goes on). You would think that those who are not die-hard fascists, of which there are probably many, would take this as an opportunity to see through his lies about a better life for the little people. But unfortunately that didn't happen, I can't for the life of me understand why not. I mean if you understand stupidity as the inability to learn from mistakes, it seems extremely stupid to me to vote for Trump even a second time.

[–] Ofiuco@lemmy.cafe 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

You think people go around understanding and learning, trying to be better or to prevent others from suffering the same fate... but you are wrong, most humans are resentful assholes, who only care about themselves and are happy with all the astrosurfing and the chance to be assholes to others, I suffered because of X, so you have to suffer through Y while I laugh at you.

The same thing happened here in México, the puppet's campaign was empty, just promising to keep doing what the expresident told her to... and that was enough to win, nobody cared for anything else, just the promise to bribe the lowest class and force the rest into lowering their life quality.

I've been saying this for a while, but they abuse that decent people try to be tolerant of them, not to make them angry or insult them, trying to be the reasonable ones... if we keep this way they are going to keep going with nobody standing up to them.

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

I don't really want to accept it, but you're probably right.

[–] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 7 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah but so many people here didn't vote for him and are just as appalled, so when we're lumped in with the people who did vote for him that's gonna make people pretty defensive

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago

Yes, I get that of course. I'm sorry for you and every other US citizen that did not vote for him. I'm from Europe and still posted some anti-Trump stuff because I despise him and everything he stands for. I think he is a threat for the whole world.

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[–] GetOffMyLan@programming.dev 24 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Way further ahead. Dude literally says he wants to be a dictator.

[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Only on day 1 haha. Gonna be something interesting to see happen. We should get bingo cards going for day 1

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[–] medicsofanarchy@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago

Thanks for trying to make us feel better, but...

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