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China Confronts Europe Over Climate-Based Trade Restrictions (www.nytimes.com)
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Days ahead of the U.N.’s global negotiations on climate change, China and other developing countries said trade restrictions should be part of the talks.

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[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

More EVs sold by China in Europe or the US means more EV's made. No other country is producing enough EV's, let alone cheap ones, to make up the difference. More EV sales would mean more money those companies have to research and produce other Green products.

Also, the tarrifs I'm complaining about aren't Carbon-related, nor imposed by China(where on earth did you even get that absurd idea?), but they would stack in an awful manner.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 week ago

The EU is a massive car exporter and the car industry in Europe is not doing that great right now. That is due to European companies producing EVs in China and then bringing them into the EU. So the EU trying to force them to keep car factories open is just logical. Hence the probe and the targetted tariffs, based on the subsidies they recieve from the Chinese government.

Also, the tarrifs I’m complaining about aren’t Carbon-related, nor imposed by China(where on earth did you even get that absurd idea?), but they would stack in an awful manner.

The article you post under is literally called: "China Confronts Europe Over Climate-Based Trade Restrictions". Also I have no idea, where I wrote anything about China imposing tariffs. Just that those are not fixed, but flexible based on certain criteria.