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Is Python's tooling incredibly difficult, or am I just stupid? (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 18 hours ago by zaphodb2002@sh.itjust.works to c/programming@programming.dev

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So I'm no expert, but I have been a hobbyist C and Rust dev for a while now, and I've installed tons of programs from GitHub and whatnot that required manual compilation or other hoops to jump through, but I am constantly befuddled installing python apps. They seem to always need a very specific (often outdated) version of python, require a bunch of venv nonsense, googling gives tons of outdated info that no longer works, and generally seem incredibly not portable. As someone who doesn't work in python, it seems more obtuse than any other language's ecosystem. Why is it like this?

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[–] Die4Ever@programming.dev 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not sure this can be really fixed with Python 3, maybe we just have to hope for Python 4

[–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It's fixed, and the python version had nothing to do with it. Just use hatch

[–] Tja@programming.dev 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the 15th standard we've been waiting for!

[–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 hours ago

It's not a standard, it's built on standards.

You can also use Poetry (which recently grew standard metadata support) or plain uv venv if you want to do things manually but fast.