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[–] Zier@fedia.io 7 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Who's to blame?

  1. 3rd party voters
  2. people who voted for the orange hitler
  3. people who didn't vote at all
[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 6 days ago

2 and 3 mostly, but I'd like to add:

  1. Neolibs who can't see past their own nose that the old world of Bush, Gore, Obama, Romney, McCain, Clintons are all gone and the people actually need and want big ideas and simply tinkering with the neoliberal worldview isn't going to appeal even if the ideas might work because they just haven't in so long. Bidenomics this, GDP that, most people work 2 jobs to live in slums. It is actually okay if things get worse if it's to a greater purpose and things get better eventually, what people hate is slow incessant tweaking of nuanced details far beyond them of what they see as a failed system
[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm gonna give third party a pass.

It's the 15 mil that normally don't vote historically that voted in 2020 I'm disappointed in. If only half them voted it would have changed things.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm not giving any of them a pass. They're all part of the problem.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 5 points 6 days ago

I get their frustration cause it's same with mine, the DNC is not progressive enough.

If 15 million people voted third party, it would have sent a better message to the DNC than not voting at all. At the minimum I can respect the third party people that did something, way more than those that did nothing.

I wouldn't be surprised if this is why the DNC even went with the plan to court moderate Republicans. Cause they "actually vote" and had no faith in progressives. Sounds super dumb and out of touch but it's the DNC so could be legit.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Nazis.

Nazis are to blame. You've listed people who didn't do enough to stop it.

Secondary.

Nazis are at fault here. Stop being the worst version of the left, everybody. This is the oldest enemy the world has known, authoritarianism, and it's smaller than all three numbered groups above. All of us vs them, same as ever.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

3rd party voters made up less than 1% of the vote. Stop even bringing them up.