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Websites, radio stations, podcasts, and so forth ought to be stood up by party members with access to money—the Harris campaign and associated groups, by the way, spent about $5 billion losing this election—particularly if they can replace genuine local news that has been gutted by private equity and Facebook, or if they are centered on subjects typically neglected by liberals like sports or gaming. The core strategy is to set up publications with progressive views but likely to have broader appeal. Honest partisanship should be the standard, rather than a pretend above-it-all “objective journalism” that in practice means bending reality completely beyond recognition to benefit Donald Trump.

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[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's easy to feel like X is just a fascist wasteland, but guys Medhi Hasan still frequently reach millions of people. Even if we're yelling into the firehose of BS the reach is still orders of magnitude higher than platforms like this. I still prefer here much greater, but we aren't the ones that need to hear this stuff.

[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

We will not win the meme war when Elon Musk can silence our memes and outreach on Twitter through algorithmic manipulation.

It's just like how Ukrainians keep getting censored on Twitter. It's simply not a fair fight, the owner and algorithms are literally against you, and you likely have teams of internal Twitter programmers being commanded to tailor make algorithms to fight us.

We need social media we can trust. Lemmy is one of them but is too small. But we are somewhat safe here.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The goal is not to win, but to simply make it clear that counter-arguments and opposition do exist so people are not as quick to take those posts as established fact and make up their minds based on poor information.

[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

And you think you can do that when your opponent literally controls the outreach of your messages?

There is a +Elon Musk boost to Elons messages on Twitter. Furthermore, all the pro-Ukrainian posts systematically become NSFW and hidden from the timeline. Even when it is totally safe to view (like cute cat videos being shared by Ukrainian soldiers).

How the fuck do you get your message out on Twitter when Twitter specifically is being used to suppress your message?

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Do what? Reach more people than we would if we stick purely to our little safe spaces?

Yes. It's trivially provable:

10M views:

https://x.com/tayrilivia/status/1854207409717428564

16M views:

https://x.com/RoseSensu/status/1854215333243949203

94M views:

https://x.com/BarackObama/status/1854284022731669530

Etc. Etc.

Those 2 posts have probably gotten more views than everything you and I have ever posted online combined.

Again, it's not about being louder than Elon Musk and whatever bullshit shenanigans, it's just about not 100% conceding the information spaces like because they aren't fair. Nothing is going to be fair for the next 4 years, but that doesn't mean we give up.

[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm not about conceding the information space.

What I'm saying is that without an allied media that you can actually trust to get the big news out, then people will be wondering about When Did Biden Drop Out again.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

No disagreement there, just suggesting we additionally continue to do everything and anything to get word out to other less-savory platforms as well.