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Harris only received five percent of Republican votes — less than the six percent Joe Biden won in 2020 when he beat Trump, as well as the seven percent won by Hillary Clinton in 2016 when she lost to him. While Harris won independents and moderates, she did so by smaller margins than Biden did in 2020.

Meanwhile, Harris lost households earning under $100,000, while Democratic turnout collapsed. Votes are still being counted, but Harris is on pace to underperform Biden’s 2020 totals by millions of votes.

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[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

For many, actively supporting Israeli genocide is something they simply can't support.

If there's anything that this election has proven, it's that there are A LOT of one issue voters in this country, across the board. They'll ignore everything else for the one issue they care about above all else. And when you only have two viable parties, that forced a black and white decision.

The fundamental solution is eradicating First Past the Post and getting ranked choice voting so we have a multitude of parties that are all more nuanced instead.

But that won't happen unless we abandon both of the major parties we have now, and they can't let that happen because that means they lose power.

[–] ModestMeme@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

What is Trump’s stated opinion on Israel and its war in Gaza? What is Trump’s stated opinion -and first term actions- on Muslims? Seriously, the Biden & Harris = “genocide” horseshit was 100% designed to disenfranchise Democrats. Congress votes on foreign aid. Congress is largely Republican. Protesters NEVER went after Republicans.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh 100%. But if there's anything this election proved, it's that the average American is fucking stupid, gullible as shit, and unable to determine propaganda from reality.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 week ago

Yeah, and the problem is people just kind of stop at "they're dumb" like that's just the end of it. "They're dumb and our opponents are unscrupulous so we'll never win until dumbness is eradicated". It's an influence campaign. Figure out a way to make the dumb people want to vote for you! The dumb people exist, some of them vote, and others could probably be encouraged to vote who don't.

No ad agency would stay in business by saying "sorry, we didn't get you any extra sales, but it's not our fault because the consumers are dumb, and also you should hire us to do it all over again next time because our failure was the absolute best that could have been done under the circumstances".

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

So why are the democrats currently taking part in genociding Palestinians? Thats horseshit too?

Is anything stopping them from being vocally opposed to the situation?

Both candidates messaging was they would "get the war over with" but I guess it sounds better coming from Kamala than Trump?

[–] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 3 points 1 week ago

So now they get genocide and child rape. NICE