Well I do think getting protein from many sources makes more sense and easier to obtain. Are there other options? Absolutely. But how available are they at all times and how much do I need to eat to get the same amount? I hear what you are saying by selfishness but we kind of have to be. It's what fuels this giant meat puppet I move around daily.

[–] Jon_Servo@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago (19 children)

Many sources of protein

You think vegans just eat blocks of tofu all day? My diet has never been more varied and flavorful than when I went vegan. Every single environmental impact study says animal agriculture is a bane to our continued existence, and it goes so far beyond that. Our lands and crops are swallowed up by this ever-rotating machine of suffering and murder that affects the lives of billions of land animals every year, which die terrified and in pain. No "varied protein" myth is worth so much suffering.

[–] prosp3kt@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 5 days ago (4 children)

And now it seems we can say the same with plants. Life per se is bad because it is based on a predatory scheme. We need to eat more living things in order to keep living...

[–] Teppichbrand@feddit.org 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Vegan Bullshit Bingo
#22: Plants have feelings too

No, they do not. There is no serious study to suggest that they do. Plants do not have a brain or central nervous system. At most, they respond to stimuli. If you really care that much about the welfare of plants, you should go vegan, since many more plants "die" for animal feeding. Do you feel bad while mowing your lawn? And would you rather rescue a potted plant than a dog from a burning house? Is docking pig tails the same as branch trimming to you? Question upon question...

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

you can't prove that plants don't have feelings.

[–] Teppichbrand@feddit.org 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What do you want, commie? Stop wasting my time.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago

I just want people in c/science to stick to scientifically provable claims

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