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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) by Quexotic@beehaw.org to c/politics@beehaw.org
 

I feel like this is probably pretty effective. I feel like it should be a thing.

E: see also https://beehaw.org/post/16953380 E2: https://19thnews.org/2024/11/4b-movement-south-korea-social-media-trump-presidency/

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[–] GammaGames@beehaw.org 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (13 children)

They could’ve been telling you to go off because the not all men argument is unnecessary and pedantic. Obviously it’s not all men, but it’s enough of them that nobody should have to specify only the misogynists, racists, rapists, etc.

It has always been bizarre to me that good people lump themselves in with them. You don’t have to be defensive! You can understand nuance!

[–] xor@infosec.pub 3 points 1 week ago (12 children)

the post i’m replying to says “ no __ with men”… 4 times… it’s silly to pretend that means only bad men….

there’s no nuance in that list….

blanket blaming MEN for everything is just as stupid as men acting like “all women are ___”.

i thought the whole trans and non-binary thing would’ve taught people that’s it’s not a genetic problem with men, but a cultural problem with toxic masculinity….

btw, women voted…. they could’ve all voted for feminist issues and anti-gop but they didn’t…. men AND women fucked this up for women AND men… we’re aaaaaaalllll fucked because of this stupid republicult, not because of a chromosome…

but, go ahead and waste your time with stupid projects, women love doing that!
(not all women, obviously… you understand nuance!)

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

It's not just the men, it's the social rituals and expectations that accompany marriage, dating, sex, etc. People internalize those unwritten rules, even when they intellectually know it's bullshit. It's the path of least resistance.

Anyway, it's their choice: some men, all men, whatever. From your (or my) point of view as a man, some women just won't want to get with you, and they're not obligated to explain why. That's autonomy, and whining about it doesn't change the fact that they don't have to tell you their reasons. It's ultimately none of your business. They can opt in if and when they choose, and if they choose not to, get over it.

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