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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Hot take: Batleths are bad weapons. Probably introduced as a form of handicapping.

Shadiversity's take on Batleths which surely wont cause any controversy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsElSDXPgSA

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Could also be that Klingon muscles are different from ours, they have a whole bunch of redundant organs after all, and the Batleth is designed to take advantage of their unique strengths

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 12 points 1 year ago

That is a excellent point, I hadn't thought of that, I just assumed all humanoids are about the same, but your totally right

[–] DrChaotica@startrek.website 5 points 1 year ago

Physics does not work that way, you insolent fool!

Regardless of Klingon muscles, the fact that the blade sticks out sideways from the handle creates a lever arm that tends to make it droop due to gravity whenever it's held horizontally. Even if Klingon hands are different, they're not that different that it's somehow advantageous to keep torquing upwards so the blade points at the opponent instead of the floor.

[–] LilDestructiveSheep@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't see a batleth as a weapon. See it as extention to your arms and movement - or something similar did Worf say to Alexander.

[–] cheery_coffee@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

Tuvok to B'Lanna said the same thing (before turning into a Klingon warrior)

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

I rest my case, your honor.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought that was cannon? It's that not specifically mentioned somewhere? I can't remember when I heard it but I always thought that they were made to be hard to use, because winning a battle with a regular weapon is easy and therefore less honorable.

And if you watch the actors try to swing these things around they always look awkward.

[–] emptyother@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago

Give it to a bunch of bored monks. If they could make something as useless as two chained sticks into a cool weapon..

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] PlasmaDistortion@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Basically dark age knights could have beaten Klingons in battle.

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even worf seems to agree, by Picard s3 he has a sort of batleth / katana hybrid instead of a classic one. Though I think he already said in DS9 that he actually prefers the mekleth.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It’s a Mek’leth (modified in PIC S03), which he has stated before is his preferred weapon. He even uses it in The First Battle of Deep Space Nine to defend against the attempted Klingon invasion.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's worth noting, too, that Worf is an in-universe badass even by Klingon standards. He easily takes out Duras. He won a major Bat'leth tournament in Parallels. He beats Gowron to the floor in Apocalypse Rising. Later in the Dominion War, he takes on every single Jem'hadar in a prison and beats them all, which Mar'tok can't help but be impressed by. Late in the war, he beats and kills Gowron easily.

If Worf says the Mek'leth is better, then we should take his word for it.

Also, Gowron is a chump ass bitch and I'm tired of pretending he's not.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I don’t recall Worf ever saying that the Mek’leth is better, simply that he personally prefers it.

You are correct, however, on all of the points, except for the fact that he didn’t quite beat Gawron so easily. 

[–] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For a minute I thought it was something like ice skating blades. Why does this weapon exist?

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 6 points 1 year ago

looks cool and alien, perfect for a tv show about warrior aliens.