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[–] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I dunno, maybe 18-21 years of being told everything wrong in the world is a guy's fault has something to do with it. Putting all the blame on people that had no hand in the state of things doesn't exactly enamour them to your cause...

Y'all choose the bear over random dudes this summer. These young guys saw all that happening, right in front of them in real time. Where were they supposed to turn? One side was offering them answers, even if falsely. The other side was blaming them for everything. The shift right wasn't all because of the Trump's and Bannon's of the world.

[–] tee9000@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

An actual opportunity to talk about an issue, rather than reinforce my own beliefs. Dont mind if i do....

Dont you think this is more of an artifact of personalizing newsfeeds and those separated viewpointa clashing with other personalized newsfeeds?

Every opinion exists, and the internet allows opinions to be magnified without a basis in people's true opinions. We need to learn how to navigate and develop our social beliefs without fixating on who's opinion is percieved as majority or being shown the most in media... that includes overreacting to polarized opinions and validating them.

Real peoples opinions are different than the popularity of memeified opinions. When people talk to each other there is understanding. When people arm themselves with memes instead of forming their own opinions, we are parroting ideas that might be manufactored so we have no choice but to deny meme ideologies unless their merit is unavoidable.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

No I don't think personalized news feeds really factor into it. The common narrative is directly opposite the lived experience of 18-21 year olds.

Women graduate highschool more, attend college more, graduate college more, and earn more. Despite all that the narrative is still women need more help because men are holding them down.

[–] OldChicoAle@lemmy.world -5 points 2 days ago

Oh woe is me?! Cry me a river. No one is blaming young men for these things. It's a call to action to dismantle a system of oppression on marginalized groups. Some of those marginalized groups include white people, white men, and young white men. This whole election just allowed the worst to flourish.

[–] undercrust@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So...blame the victims for speaking up about how absolutely shit a lot of men are?

[–] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I didn't "blame a victim." I pointed out it's pretty obvious what's happening, if you take a second and look.

I once had an argument with my sister about how "all men are rapists." I said I'm not. She said "not that you'd admit." Ok, that avenue is a dead end, so i pivoted to "what about your son? He's 8. Is he a rapist?" She looked me dead in the eye and said NOT YET.

This is the mentality that ALL men are forced to face nowadays, not just the rapists. How do you expect to gain any allies when you preemptively push people away? Those people you shun end up somewhere. Gee, i wonder why the Joe Rogans and Andrew Tates and Jordan Petersons are all so popular suddenly...

[–] tee9000@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Its all about who lets themselves play into the extremes we are inundated with.

Be careful not to apply the same logic to all women/leftists who apparently all think men are rapists. Thats obviously not true. Their claim about you is obviously not true.

Diffuse the polarization with understanding.