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[–] Scolding7300@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Technically you can be concerned about immigration without being a fascist. Fascist doesn't seem to have a clear agreed definition

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

Yeah, maybe I didn't make that clear. I don't think 90% of Trump voters are fascists. I don't think being a Nazi is necessary to be concerned about immigration, but assuming it's not sheer racial hatred my question was what was driving this concern about immigration?

Fascism has a clear definition, however there's a bit of nuance between that definition and saying a person is a fascist. Like I think Trump only gives a fuck about himself. I don't think he is motivated by fascist belief. But if it's in his self-interest to advance a fascist agenda, which he then does, he's enacting fascism, which makes him a fascist even if maybe you could dissect his psyche and say but he doesn't believe in fascism!

Fascist is as fascist does. But it takes a pattern of behavior and at each step you have a few more people agreeing it's fascism. At what point will history agree he's a fascist? I don't know. He's clearly not literally Hitler, but if he does stuff Hitler would do, how much makes him a Nazi? That's for future historians to pointlessly debate. The fact is he does an uncomfortable amount of fascist stuff.