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[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago (25 children)

I had someone arguing at me here, with the supreme confidence of the ignorant, that trump and Harris would be the same for Palestineans.

[–] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 19 hours ago (8 children)

I I genuinely wonder what would change? What's worse than denying and backing the genocide with weapons, soldiers and money under Biden? What worse could Trump do?

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago (7 children)

The West Bank, where roughly half of Palestineans live was more or less left alone as one of yhr administrations red lines (also, Iran's oil/nuclear facilities.)

With trump incoming, it seems Israel feels they have a green light to expand in the West Bank.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io -1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Israel have been aggressively expanding in the West Bank since October 7, and intensified their campaign at around the same time they started the war with Lebanon. There are no red lines.

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

What new settlements happened thete in the last year? You are conflating an increase in tensions and conflict with expansion.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

You are arguing with absolute liars. It's like people only thinking this mess accelerated under Biden (who is the most paid politician by AIPAC) is just a coincidence. As if Israel hasn't been expanding into some of the most important Palestinian cities while the world focuses on Gaza.

It's the same people who say what can Biden possibly do while funding their military operations. Trump sees the praise Biden is getting from Congress and actually thinks Biden must have been doing something right. Yet, somehow there was a good choice for people who want to see Palestine prosper (Those who pretend that Harris would do better because she doesn't shout her plans out like some cliché comic book villain).

But let's call Trump a huge liar and let's take his word at face value when it's convenient for us. I'm sure the Democrats who never learn a thing will be excited to lose the next election as well. Obviously, Trump won't be a good president but Democrats lost because they were seen as slightly less evil but with no charisma.

It's not us, everyone else is just stupid. - Democrats

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