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[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

We really need better terms than facist or nazi. People keep confusing the meaning of the words because its all we have for description of this thoughtset. There might be some overlap, but unless it 100% fits it just creates opportunities for people to be confused and issue to get muddied by pointless arguments and misunderstandings.

For some time i have thought this type of thoughtset as "dark humanity", but i'm not sure how fitting term it is and it feels kind of over dramatic. It just feels like humans are fundamendally split about one or more core issues, with some in the middle too. Though i'm also worried that making such clear distinction would also make the separation more solid. The issues also need more defining.

Why we need better terms is that we need to be able to confront these people without insulting them as first thing, otherwise we are just aiding the enemy by pushing them further in. Calling someone nazi or facist only hurts if there is any chance to save them. Its no better than calling someone libtard.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The fuck it is. Fascists are fascists are fascists. There is not some moral equivalence between that and libtard, and honestly fuck you for making the comparison.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

What i'm trying to do is suggest we should try to find alternatives to where we are eventually going, which is both sides attacking eachother for real.

And while there is no moral equivalence, there is equivalence between our hate of fascism and their hate of our way of thinking. We shouldnt drive away those who are not completely lost.

Also, i dont see the need to be immidiately so offended and attack me verbally like that. You can point out the mistakes someone has made and offer your own corrections to them and discuss like civilized people. I feel like i dont see things as others do, i think i have some kind of autism. so how am i supposed to learn from my mistakes like this?

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The opposite side of intolerance...? Yes. I do want to be that. If ensuring that people can live peacefully necessitates violence, then so be it. They are the ones who have been perpetually escalating and the left has been tolerant and attempted to work together with people. In response, they have repeatedly shat in their own hands and smeared it on our faces then made fun of our smell. It's pathetic that this is where we are at.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If there is truely no way to avoid violence, then we should stop fucking around. If there is any organized effort going on regarding opposing facism, planet dying, billionaires taking everything its failing quite badly at conveying there is any hope.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I agree completely.