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Here are the problems I want to solve:

The same app everywhere

It will run as a website, iOS app (also on macOS), and Android app. It will be responsive, supporting phone, tablet, and computer screen sizes along with everything in between.

And I’m not talking about simply resizing the interface. Navigation (e.g. sidebar or on mobile bottom tab bar) will match what you would expect to see on the device size you’re using. But everything else (e.g. posts) will look the same, which I hope will make it really easy to jump from mobile to desktop.

Onboarding and configuration

The app will allow you to configure it to look like a typical Reddit or Lemmy app. During the onboarding process, I will prompt you, asking which style of interface you prefer. Consider these presets, which change a bunch of more granular configuration options. I will also give you the ability to fully customize each option instead of picking a preset.

Caching and offline support

This is where it starts to get more tricky. Caching is easy. If you launch the app, it will have everything you previously saw still loaded.

I would like to make it so upvoting, for example, can be done offline. The app will optimistically apply the upvote to the post or comment, then when you reconnect to the internet, it will actually apply the upvote. This is a difficult problem to solve, so I can’t promise this will work, and it would likely be the last feature I add.

I need your feedback

This is a big project to undertake. I really want a Lemmy client that checks those boxes for myself, but I’m curious if any of those resonate with you? Is there anything I missed that you would like to see? If I do build this, I will likely have to keep the project very focused as far as features go initially.

Just for context, I’m using Voyager on iOS currently. I really like it, but the “the same app everywhere” concept and making it easier to onboard Reddit users are my main motivations for creating my own app. My app will also be fully open source

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[–] moseschrute@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

That’s a great point! I kinda want to write my own client, but I haven’t ruled out contributing to Voyager. It’s very possible I totally fail, learn from my mistakes, and bring what I’ve learned to an existing app like Voyager.

[–] rglullis 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

I kinda want to write my own client

Fair enough, every developer goes through that.

At the same time... If this is your primary motivation I would feel like there is no point in you asking for "feedback" because you are essentially looking for validation.

I don't mean to pick on you, I just wish we collectively learned to stop this. So much effort is wasted by individuals who want to prove something to themselves and want to go out on their own, it feels like FOSS alternatives would be 20 years in the future if put worked together on 2-3 alternatives instead of 20-30 disparate projects.

If you are okay with reconsidering your position... go to Voyager's discussion pages on GitHub, there a few issues I opened there and would like to tackle:

  • make it offline-first (probably using something RxJS to store and sync application data and state through different apps)
  • add support to browse subreddits (won't require the API, and to ease the issue of network effects)
  • make it less dependent on the Lemmy API and substitute for straight ActivityPub whenever possible
  • use content-addressable storage for media (IPFS likely, but maybe also webtorrent)

If any of these things interest you, I'd love to have a longer chat and see if we can work together.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

it feels like FOSS alternatives would be 20 years in the future if put worked together on 2-3 alternatives instead of 20-30 disparate projects.

Honestly having 20-30 separate projects is awesome if merging in the creative bits from each were merged into the more popular ones more often. Sometimes there is a foundational difference that makes that a lot harder than plug and play, but to be honest not developing with being modular in mind is one of the biggest issues with any kind of development.

[–] rglullis 2 points 3 weeks ago

if merging in the creative bits from each were merged into the more popular ones more often.

Yeah, the pity is that most of the times this simply doesn't happen, and everyone wants to reinvent their own special flavor of wheel.

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