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A ‘doom loop’ of climate change and geopolitical instability is beginning (theconversation.com)
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[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The science shows the current predicament and the fact that any "good things" are based on the idea of massive reforms (or even revolutions) occurring. This makes it very easily to estimate how bad the situation is based on what's not happening.

As the climate chaos gets worse, it's reasonable to expect more bad news, not less.

[–] zante@slrpnk.net -5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It always reasonable to expect bad news from the popular press .

[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I wish you were correct, but the popular press is usually loaded with optimism, especially techno-optimism.

[–] zante@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

So this is wrong then ?

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10192715/

There is clear evidence that the prevalence of negative media reporting has increased substantially over the past years. There is evidence that this negative reporting adversely affects social interactions, and thereby also health and well-being outcomes. Given the wide reach of negative media reporting and the contagion of such reporting and the resulting interactions, the effects on health are arguably substantial.

[–] franklin@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Your drawing a false equivalency. Just because there is an over-reporting of negative stories does not mean that all negative stories are false.

While climate change news is A popular target for doom scroll fodder, I think in this case it is accurate, and I think it is important to understand the situation well, even if it's not good news.

[–] zante@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Apart from the fact I’m not drawing any equivalence and I never said the story was false.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, but how you gonna win internet points if you're not overly cynical to the point of hyperbole? /s

I appreciate you pointing out the obvious negative bent of most current news media. It's why I don't bother with them anymore; they don't care about an accurately weighted story, they want clicks and subscriptions.

[–] franklin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

It always reasonable to expect bad news from the popular press .

This It implies that they're only reporting it because it is bad news. Which has a whole other host of implications and make sure you're aware of it.

Perhaps I read too much into it, but I don't believe that's the case.