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What is your opinion of Joseph Stalin? (lemm.ee)

submitted 2 weeks ago by AnonomousWolf@lemm.ee to c/socialism@lemmy.ml

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I believe in socialism, but I feel Stalin shouldn't be idolised due to things like the Gulag.

I would like more people to become socialist, but I feel not condemning Stalin doesn't help the cause.

I've tried to have a constructieve conversation about this, but I basically get angry comments calling me stupid for believing he did atrocious things.

That's not how you win someone over.

I struggle to believe the Gulag etc. Never happened, and if it happened I firmly believe Stalin should be condemned.

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[–] dwindling7373@feddit.it -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm not using speculation reaching for impossible scenarios.

I'm questioning the degree of freedom that anybody could have taken advantage of if they wanted to. The fact that this happened or not is irrelevant.

Given that, I also make another separate point about how greed can have many faces, even outside Capitalism.

Combining those two I question the amount of self reflection Stalin subjected himself and his role to through his life.

[–] ferristriangle@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I'm not suggesting that what you're speculating is impossible.

I'm suggesting your analysis is facile and uninteresting

[–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 1 points 2 weeks ago

That's only fair.