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How Lemmy public modlog allows to call out toxic and troll users, and should we have a community about this? (feddit.org)

submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by Blaze@feddit.org to c/fedigrow@lemm.ee

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I noticed today an occurence of a user complaining about Lemmy being worse then Reddit. The modlogs shows how toxic they are. When this was pointed out, the user deletes their account

https://web.archive.org/web/20241217101003/https://sopuli.xyz/post/20276017?scrollToComments=true

Deleted account: https://kbin.melroy.org/u/Pyrin

This seems to address the question that comes up once in a while "a public modlog is only useful for mods" (https://feddit.org/post/4920887/3235141), while we can see from this example that it can also be useful for toxic users.

As you may know, !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com is a community dedicated to calling out power tripping mods.

Should we consider having a similar community for toxic users?

There is already !fediverselore@lemmy.ca, but I feel like the "lore" is more about large-scale events (like the cats wave recently) than specific users events.

Edit: Updated the title, and put the emphasis on creating a community to call out toxic users rather than "dunking" on the users that was banned.

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[–] Blaze@feddit.org 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

You're not the first one to point it out, maybe I should remove this post.

To answer your question, as I said in another comment, I wanted to use this example for when people ask “how does a public modlog make Lemmy better than Reddit”, which is a question that comes up quite once in a while: https://feddit.org/post/4920887/3235141

We also public shame mods all the time on !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com, no sure why potential trolls could not be called out too.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

the power tripping bastards community often goes off the rails and becomes a hate fest, many many many times, people just go there to relitigate and rage, and the brigading gets out of hand.

A few times we identify a real mod issue, but the current format is chaotic

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Interesting.

While there are definitely issues sometimes (but then the mods of the community usually lock the threads), it's been quite useful to show how biased some moderation actions are sometimes performed.

It also allows to suggest alternatives. !world@quokk.au definitely took off after a few reports about !world@lemmy.world

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 4 points 1 week ago

Sure, there is utility, but right now it is less about "did a mod follow the posted rules" and more about "do I agree with the rule".... which we have seen in the last week's news cycle, power tripping bastards has gotten super toxic.

The forum to moderate moderators needs strong moderation :)

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It'd need a heavy mod hand methinks, otherwise people'll just be forming gangs on a mf after they get butthurt inna argument. I don't have first-hand experience but i have been around the Internet a long time, figger there's probably a reason most places don't allow doxxing and it's not cuz "it's wrong" and more cuz it's "exhausting" to clean

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Is yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com really though? My one experience there I left a pretty tame comment against what looked like mod overreach to me and I got ganged up on over it and I think my comment was deleted. I really didn't understand. Felt like the most Reddit moment ever when it happened.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Weird post. Find yourself a padded room.

You were insulting OP and implying they were crazy. What exactly don't you understand about how your comment broke the rules of civility? Also, who ganged up on you? You collected 3 downvotes, and nobody else replied to you except the mod who deleted it.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee -1 points 6 days ago

Weird post. Find yourself a padded room.

[–] ogmios@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

People who obsess over such things tend to be super cliquish. You probably posted about a mod/community that wasn't one of their normal targets.