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Ah yes, Threads, a great example of the open web!
Threads is a great example of a company acknowledging that the open web exists and bringing content people want to places where they want to be. I'd like to be able to interact with everyone through one or two accounts, not have to maintain a Meta account, an Mbin account, a Google account, and all the rest.
You may not like it, but I believe the open web is about things like Threads being federated - individual platforms interacting freely, no matter who built them.
Yeah. Peoples concerns around Meta and EEE notwithstanding, ActivityPub is an open standard maintained by the W3C. It's meant to be used by anyone and everyone, just like HTTP is. The desire is to give options that esshew social silos, not to create social wilderness outside of the corporate city states
Had a typo in there. It's eschew
Threads acknowledges the fediverse like Microsoft acknowledged IRC. Their goal is to drain out the voices of all instances, since that is the only way to defeat a product not owned by a single entity. Will they accomplish it? Most likely not, but that doesn't make them any more appealing.
I don't remember MSN Messenger being able to handle IRC chats. If it had, I wouldn't have needed an IRC client. But Threads won't drown out other voices, they'll just add voices to the conversation. There's content on Threads that's worth following, and I don't think it's valuable to lose that because of a few engagement farms that you can either personally block or defederate.
Threads is, in my experience, a poor user experience. Lots of engagement farming and repeated posts, and bots.
Hasn't been my experience, but I'm mostly in a sphere of scientists, creatives, and memes. A couple art museums post some great stuff too.
Mostly leftists for me, I seem to get loads of “suggested for you” as well.
Most social media has a leftward bias. Avoiding politics in any form of social media now is like trying to avoid plankton in ocean water - you might be able to do it, but you'll need a really tight filter.
You can always choose an instance that defederates Threads, that the beauty of the open web
Doesn't make threads itself any more open. If the only thing that matters to be "open" is the individual's ability to block content from them why not "federate" with twitter?
You say that like I don't want to federate with twitter, and then choose who I block.
Because let's face it, 95% of the profiles ARE on twitter. Not everybody who uses social media gives one shit about open source. I'd say most on mastodon DO, but I'd say the vast majority on bluesky DON'T.
This will help you understand why bluesky has 24.5 active million users, and mastodon has 1.5 million active users.
Twitters new reputation is a rightwing hellhole. THAT'S why they're bleeding users. Bluesky is exactly like twitter in functionality, but left wing leaning.
Mastodon isn't political by nature, but functions very differently. The people who care about open source, and decentralized, and all these other things, those people signed up for mastodon. Everybody else who didn't care, didn't.
Now to be fair, mastodon has 10 million registered users, but only 1.5 active users. Compare that to blueskys 25 million users, with 24.5 active users.
Given mastodon's older age compared to bluesky, it suggests to me that at some point in the past, people signed up for mastodon as an alternative to twitter.....and by large have left the platform.
My speculation is that it probably happened when must bought twitter 2 years ago. Before bluesky became popular. Then they left when they realized mastodon works differently than twitter.
Personally I wouldn't enjoy sorting through hundreds of twitter scam bots every day just for the sake of choice.
Then you can choose to block twitter. But don't say that because YOU want to block twitter that EVERYONE should.
I've yet to meet a single person that enjoys twitter bots, but hey maybe the people running them would love to interact with the fediverse!
I mean that's not the only thing, I can follow this MBin account that I'm using to talk with you from Threads, and I can interact with Threads posts as well, I've even gotten likes from there
Something like that is impossible with Twitter, altho I wouldn't be fully against the idea to reconnect with a few people I know who refused to leave it for whatever reason
Also, look at the bright side, people that use Threads at least don't use Twitter, I think it's a small step in the right direction, no?
Depends on why you dislike twitter.