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Disclaimer: I was never an Incel. I held no ill will against women, I always had many female friends. I'm politically active and call myself a feminist. Still, I didn't ever have a romantic partnership and I suffered from it.
I am 29 years old. This year I started treating my chronic depression I never admitted I had and oh wonder I found a wonderful partner in a matter of months. Incel ideology is so fucked up. These guys seriously need help and support structures but they reject all that and hate half of humanity instead.
Well, noone ever showed them differently. And then, thanks to the internet, they get sucked into some circle-jerk of, at first, involuntaries, and then they get hyped against women. At least it isn't their own fault anymore but the women's. They feel better, and the circle did a fullturn and starts to drag them deeper.
It's understandable. But ultimately makes it harder and harder for them to ever crawl out of that pit and work on the real issues.
Incel ≠ misogynist. Incel means involuntary celibate. We need more people to learn about this and stop equating those two terms
Incel refers to guys that turned misogynist because they're involuntarily celibate.
No, but ok
Yes. You don't get to redefine a word just because you don't like it. Incel does and always did mean that.
Oh please. Using Wikipedia as a source while knowing entries are provided by individuals. Here's all of Wiktionary's definitions of the word:
A member of an online subculture of people (mostly men) who define themselves as unable to find a romantic or sexual partner despite desiring one.
(rare) An individual who is not sexually active despite having such a desire.
(uncountable, seduction community, informal) "Involuntary celibacy": the state of being not sexually active despite wishing to be.
Incel is not a gendered word. Even females can be incels.
Did you somehow miss the 239 references saying you're wrong?
Clearly you're the one who lacks reading skills if you didn't see that 1). The involuntary celibacy project was started by a woman, and 2). It was initially meant for lonely people struggling to find love. Any other meaning attached to the term is a matter of stereotype.
This is like saying feminism = misandrist because a lot of people that identify with the term hate men. Cmon man, do better.
Careful there, you're gonna run out of straw. The woman who started the project also denounced it because it became a breeding ground for bitter, virgin men resentful of women that turned their anger into misogyny. You really don't seem to know how language works. Grow up.
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You haven't even disagreed with my point. Denouncing it doesn't change the original intent of the incel movement. If you go back and read the definitions i provided, it is clear that women can be incels as well, so saying it's a misogynistic group is oxymoronic. Like i said, it would be akin writing off feminism as misandrism because many feminists hate men.
It's about the origins of the term and not what it has come to be associated with.
Women can be misogynistic, you absolute muppet. I don't need to disagree with your point because you don't have one, you just don't understand how language works.
Ironic considering my username. I guess we'll agree to disagree 🤝
Yes, I find it ironic.
Ok buddy, good night