Lefty Memes
An international (English speaking) socialist Lemmy community free of the "ML" influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. This is a place for undogmatic shitposting and memes from a progressive, anti-capitalist and truly anti-imperialist perspective, regardless of specific ideology.
Serious posts, news, and discussion go in c/Socialism.
If you are new to socialism, you can ask questions and find resources over on c/Socialism101.
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Rules
0. Only post socialist memes
That refers to funny image macros and means that generally videos and screenshots are not allowed. Exceptions include explicitly humorous and short videos, as well as (social media) screenshots depicting a funny situation, joke, or joke picture relating to socialist movements, theory, societal issues, or political opponents. Examples would be the classic case of humorous Tumblr or Twitter posts/threads. (and no, agitprop text does not count as a meme)
1. Socialist Unity in the form of mutual respect and good faith interactions is enforced here
Try to keep an open mind, other schools of thought may offer points of view and analyses you haven't considered yet. Also: This is not a place for the Idealism vs. Materialism or rather Anarchism vs. Marxism debate(s), for that please visit c/AnarchismVsMarxism.
2. Anti-Imperialism means recognizing capitalist states like Russia and China as such
That means condemning (their) imperialism, even if it is of the "anti-USA" flavor.
3. No liberalism, (right-wing) revisionism or reactionaries.
That includes so called: Social Democracy, Democratic Socialism, Dengism, Market Socialism, Patriotic Socialism, National Bolshevism, Anarcho-Capitalism etc. . Anti-Socialist people and content have no place here, as well as the variety of "Marxist"-"Leninists" seen on lemmygrad and more specifically GenZedong (actual ML's are welcome as long as they agree to the rules and don't just copy paste/larp about stuff from a hundred years ago).
4. No Bigotry.
The only dangerous minority is the rich.
5. Don't demonize previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.
We must constructively learn from their mistakes, while acknowledging their achievements and recognizing when they have strayed away from socialist principles.
(if you are reading the rules to apply for modding this community, mention "Mantic Minotaur" when answering question 2)
6. Don't idolize/glorify previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.
Notable achievements in all spheres of society were made by various socialist/people's/democratic republics around the world. Mistakes, however, were made as well: bureaucratic castes of parasitic elites - as well as reactionary cults of personality - were established, many things were mismanaged and prejudice and bigotry sometimes replaced internationalism and progressiveness.
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Because United Health Care is using AI to deny claims.
Probably use computers too.
Yea the cops identified him using pictures too.
Oh and the media is condemning him with words.
Wow this train of thought really goes places.
I’m curious if Luigi would approve.
Luigi's ways are inscrutable.
You anti-AI people are an insufferable cult. It can be used for bad things like health insurance companies, and it can be used for awesome things like this Luigi meme right here.
I mean, I gotta say if you’re at all leftist and don’t see an issue with the potential of AI in the hands of the people it’s currently in, then I don’t know how you square that with your ideals.
Not to mention, this tool, in these hands, in the current state of late stage capitalism is a dangerous, dangerous road. Yeah, AI can make pictures for spreading leftist messages. But you can’t ignore the massive environmental toll it’s taking, the people’s livelihood it’s threatening, and the current paradigm it exists in, making this a very dangerous tool with the potential to be a huge power solidifier for the ruling class. Think US hegemony and the nuke.
It’s neat. But the context makes AI a very volatile next step in the class war.
The comment above you demonstrated exactly the seeing of the potential of AI in wrong hands when they said it "can be used for bad things" like insurance. So the "if you didn't say what you said, I'd disagree with you" statement you're making is kinda funny lol
It's people like you who make me lose hope and realize the left is truly lost. You literally just made a regressive conservative argument, and you dont even know it. Not your fault I guess.
Leftists are progressive. Conservatives are regressive and the foundation to conservativism is tradition, i.e., sticking with what works historically because change is scary.
There's a new thing (tool, advancement in technology, whatever) that has lots of potential "problems" associated with it. The conservative says "there's problems with this new thing, therefore lets not do the new thing. Ban it.. The progressive says "yes there's problems, but the benefits are good so lets do the thing and solve the problems.
When the internal combustion engine was invented. Cars would take away jobs from horse and buggy people. Also, I don't have to change the oil on my horse. Cars are bad. Ban the automobile. That's the conservative position. They were wrong. You get my point.
AI is very scary because of what you said and more. It is also potentially very fucking awesome. Very. It could usher in a new paradigm where we could all work less and have more. Period.
You literally argued the conservative "I'm scared" position. The problems are gargantuan. We need to take power from the billionaire so that AI and everything else can benefit all, not just an oligarchic elite.
If you actually care, the only thing you should be arguing for is anti-billionaire, anti capitalism (or minimum very progressive regulation on capitalism), wealth inequality, etc. Not this nonsense about AI generated Luigi memes are iRoNiC!
Your comment is ridiculous and a complete waste of time and energy. Oh well.
And all those incredible leaps in technology you mentioned resulted in even further exploitation of the working class. And the house of cards you constructed has toppled.
Not sure why you keep going around calling yourself a leftist, on a .world account, when your behavior clearly mirrors that of Fed or IDF ops.
In fact, you completely avoided touching on any of the reasons leftists actually dislike AI and went on some weird rant about how leftists are the real conservatives.
Yikes.
So your solution is that we should never have done them? Should've stayed in the good ol horse and buggy days? The true leftist would say these could benefit all if we take the power back from the capitalists.
I wrote a wall of text by my argument(s) are simple, and inherently leftist, which I doubt you are or understand.
Yikes again. I grabbed a popular instance during the whole reddit migration. Don't know much about the lemmy instance "personalities". Is the domain I belong to suppose to define me or something LOL. Jfc dude.
That’s…incredibly reductive. If there were a new machine that whipped slaves automatically so the landowner didn’t have to, would the progressive be for it because it was a technological advancement?
You can’t honestly believe that technological advancements, no matter their use, no matter their owners, no matter who they will hurt, and no matter how quickly it’ll destroy the climate are supported by leftists because they’re progressive.
In the slave-whipping machine example, it would’ve been technology that solidified the existing paradigm without questioning the underlying problems with the system. “Think of all the art the white man can create now that he won’t while away his day overseeing his slaves! Think about how regressive that is!” Exactly like AI. This is a tool that, IN AN ONGOING CLIMATE EMERGENCY, is sucking up the limited available fresh water, using exponential amounts of energy, and is currently in the hands of the ruling class.
Because it can also…what? Make pictures and videos and write things so humans don’t have to use their own creativity? So it can finally eliminate any job that that people actually want to do to find some way to utilize creativity in a disgustingly repressive capitalist society? That’s why we have to accept any technological advancement?
Look at all of the other more recent tech advancements. Cellphone, email, internet, etc. They definitely offer a lot of democratizing tools and creative tools. But…it brought the rise of tech monopolies, unlimited surveillance, new ways to accumulate data to sell. It also upped productivity drastically, and thus profits.
We are living in a world increasingly dominated by tech and it’s all in the hands of the ruling class—they’ve literally turned us and out data into products. It is not “conservative” to say these things are bad. It’s not “conservative” to see the pattern we’ve been following with these tech advancements in the age of tech megacorps, and say “I see where this is going and it’s not great.”
It’s fucking stupid to NOT recognize the pattern and say “but this time it’s gonna be awesome!”
You're confused, but whatever.
Ridiculous example not even close to AI or what I was arguing. I made no such argument implying progressives support everything new, so fuck right off with this nonsense. AI can absolutely be positive if used for the benefit of all, you know it or you're a liar.
Never said or implied anything close to that. You're in fucking fantasy land.
Arguably the power of AI if used correctly could help with this in many ways. Have it help accelerate battery tech, help with nuclear power plants, more efficient solar panels, etc.
These benefits should be ours, for everyone not just the elite. This is what I'm arguing.
It is though. What do you want to do? Be a hippy living in the forest eating berries? You seem to just have a hatred for anything tech. I want all the tech for the benefit of everyone, not a billionaire elite. Your solution to "just don't do it" because we don't have control is stupid. You are a pussy. We need to take control and use it for the benefit of all.
My original comment was simple and still stands. You are making the regressive argument: its got problems therefore don't do it. I'm arguing we should absolutely do it because it has many amazing implications and possibilities that can benefit everyone.