this post was submitted on 20 Sep 2023
60 points (92.9% liked)
Work Reform
9966 readers
22 users here now
A place to discuss positive changes that can make work more equitable, and to vent about current practices. We are NOT against work; we just want the fruits of our labor to be recognized better.
Our Philosophies:
- All workers must be paid a living wage for their labor.
- Income inequality is the main cause of lower living standards.
- Workers must join together and fight back for what is rightfully theirs.
- We must not be divided and conquered. Workers gain the most when they focus on unifying issues.
Our Goals
- Higher wages for underpaid workers.
- Better worker representation, including but not limited to unions.
- Better and fewer working hours.
- Stimulating a massive wave of worker organizing in the United States and beyond.
- Organizing and supporting political causes and campaigns that put workers first.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
I think they shouldn't be there in the first place - what is education for? Why are we doing assessments at the education level if they aren't actually valued or indicative of job performance?
I've helped with hiring before, and I've never needed to do an assessment to gauge whether someone was right for the job. Within about 10 minutes of conversation, it's pretty easy to tell where they're at.
Not everyone is 20 years old. This absolutely doesn't make sense if you're hiring a 50 year old person who has been working for 30 years; their college grades are completely irrelevant at that point.
Right, but if someone has been working for 30 years consistently do you really still need to assess them? Does an interview not suffice?
Depends on the role I think. Also, this is very relevant for people who have been working for just 5 years. 5 years in a job you can learn just as much practical knowledge as 5 years in college... or not.
Nobody is hiring 50 year olds. They are getting rid of 50 year olds and replacing them with 20 year olds
EUTHANIZE THE ELDERLY
Some people make it through school (even higher education) and are dumber than bricks
Right, and some dumb people get jobs, sure. However, if the grades they get from school aren't showing their knowledge instead of ignoring the qualification we should be working on improving it so it does.
I'm a fan of a conversational test, maybe 30 minutes of feeling out the candidate, while seeing how they work out problem solving. But that's just normal interview stuff.
At that point it sounds like a normal interview lol, which is good, that's all that should be needed
Absolutely agreed. However, hiring managers need to deal with the employees on the market today. Should we simply stop hiring until the educational problems are solved? Could be a while.
Of course not, but also an assessment for each and every employer isn't the way
I agree, see my other reply on this post. Assessments ARE sometimes necessary, however. In my field, we get a lot of self-taught software developers. I've had times where I think the candidate can do the job but can't quite put a pin in it - but the team needs a warm seat. That's when I pull out something stupid like FizzBuzz or a palindrome detector and ask them to pair program it with me, in the time span of the interview. If I have a choice, nobody will ever see a take-home assessment from me. I hated them when I was a junior, what kind of person would I be if I handed them out?
@solivine@sopuli.xyz
@SensualSass zI couldn't sexually agree more. It's ridiculous to take quizzes. Like, I have my diploma from graduating first grade biotch. Get out my face with those non-sensual requirements. 💯💫💥