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Yeah! Just because a racist, fascist douchebag does a seig heil doesn't mean you should tell obvious big mean old lies about him being a Nazi!

You tell those woke mind virus victims, Joe!

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[–] nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Whether or not you or I care what he has to say doesn't change that he has a huge audience of people who do care and if we just tune him out instead of rebutting his crazy shit he'll go completely unchecked.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

There's an argument to be made that just engaging his bullshit gives it weight. Something about arguing with a pig just gets you pulled into the mud and the pig likes it or somesuch. (I know, I butchered that saying).

I honestly prefer the angle of "Oh, you listen to Joe Rogan. Then clearly your opinion is of no consequence and I want nothing with you".

[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

And people wonder how the Democrats lost in 2024.

"Oh this person did one thing that isn't permanent and they could possibly have their viewpoints changed if they were around people like me who disagree with them? Nah I'm going to tell them that because they listen to a podcast of a guy I hate that I think everything about them is wrong and then I will never speak to them again."

The only way to stop the young men and women from getting sucked down there pipeline into the alt right dude bro bullshit is to fucking talk to them like they are humans that can make mistakes. When you write them off entirely instantly without even a second thought you are robbing everyone involved of the potential for personal growth and understanding.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"Bigotry is bad and you should feel bad."

"What, so people can't make mistakes anymore? So much for the 'tolerant left'." And then they double down, because feeling bad is for liberal pussies.

[–] berno@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Ironically, Marc Andreessen was on the JRE podcast and brought up that the new "woke" stuff essentially functions as a cult or neo-religion without a concept of forgiveness.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

The only people I hear talking about "woke nonsense" are white people who are upset that the world is changing.

[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

The scariest part is they often either cannot see it or they can see it and they just don't care how cultish it is.

I hate the term "woke" because it's wrapped up in so much pedantic bullshit now, but yeah.