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[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If Valve dies and I lose thousands of dollars in games, there won't be another company for me, pure piracy until I die.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Its gonna happen.

Cause its already happened with other services, like Direct2Drive. Lost dozens of games from that being bought/sold/going under/rebranding whatever weird as fuck path its taken to be able to keep my money and not let me have any of the games I bought.

Digital Distribution is a plague, and most people refuse to look past the tip of their instant gratification to realize it.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Oh we did look. Gabe's promise was to give us warning and an unlock on all our games so it could run without steam. There might be a jam in the rush to download and backup everything.

I didn't like digital distribution and have been burned by Stardock (for selling out to Gamestop) and then by Gamestop (for shutting down my account without cause or notice). But Steam is the least offensive of the DD offerings.

Then again I've never been wronged by Steam and others have. Others have, amd I understand Steam support can be ruthlessly cold.

I still have CD and DVD games I like with no DD alternative sources. (I'll buy them from GOG when they're on the cheap just for convenience.) Some of them have exceeded their official shelf lives, and would depend on finding a no-disc-check mod online.

In this age, we should be able to download a game from any archive and just keep our licenses. But our society and the game industry only gets more and more resentful of its customer base.

If Steam dies, I'll likely just pirate relentlessly and only actually buy games whose dev teams I want to support. ( Terraria and DRG serve as good examples -- games where lighting and mining are complex mechanics). And the industry will suffer every time a DD platforn enshittifies.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I argue that digital is good as long as you make backups of your games.

I have an external drive full of steam games that steam can't touch. So I'll always have those games. Barring I lose the drive or don't transfer the files before it becomes unreadable.

Another example where digital is good imo is the Switch. Those tiny game cards can suck my ass. If I drop one on my carpet it'll be gone until next spring. Having multiple games saved on SD cards is the way to go.

Other than that, I agree.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You're backups wont work if valve ceases to exist, since you need to be logged into a steam account, that owns the games, to restore the backups.

Same reason my D2D games ceased to work, cause D2D went away, along with their authentication servers.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That hasn't been true for like ten years now.
Obviously anything that needs an internet connection will require steam. But pretty much almost all single player games do not need steam to run.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didnt say to run the games. I said to unpack the backups.

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No you dont? You can literally just copy files onto an external hard drive, there is no requirement to use steam to do that.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

It varies a bit from game to game, but typically Steam games are intertwined with Steam in one way or another. You can move the files around, but you need Steam to verify and "fix" the files and their associations afterwards.

It definitely does vary though. For example, with KSP I was able to just copy the install directory and have many different install folders for different instances of the game (great for version and mod control). For others, I was able to copy the files, but it didn't run, not until I manually set up Steam to the install directory and did the verify integrity thing.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

There is a distinct difference between copying the game folder to another drive, and a steam backup.

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Valve did promise their customers will have a way to access their game if the company have to shutdown. But if the company got enshittified instead of dying, suck to the customers I guess.

[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't know why people would trust Valve on that. They've blatantly lied a bunch of times yet for some reason people let them get away with it.

[–] Wooki@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Game only available through Microsoft Xbox online stadia