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Why is this being downvoted? He was literally part of the SS. He was in a Ukrainian division that voluntarily worked with the Nazis. On the one hand, it's understandable that you might get confused by the name because if you're not aware of the connection then it sounds innocent. On the other hand, did no one do any screening of the event to ensure they wouldn't be calling on a former member of the SS to be honored?
I was skeptical of it too at first, most of the media reporting on it so far are right wing chuds. So everybody is still in denial and assuming it must be some kind of an op.
It's not, it's real, the Speaker invited a man who fought for Nazi Germany into the House, and somehow every layer of the LPC did not remember who fought against the Russians in WW2.
The speaker issued an apology this afternoon.
Complete absolute morons.
Apparently the speaker made the decision without consulting too many people.
This has to be a hit job right. The speaker is a political science major whose worked in politics his whole career. How is this considered a mistake or incompetence because it should be seen as purposefully done I think
It's his own party that's in government, so I'm not sure what the motive would be.
He was probably in college 40 years ago and I'm not sure how much military history is involved in that major, so I don't find it implausible he and a few select staffers wouldn't realise. Going by the ones I've interacted with politicians are salespeople, not academics.
Uh, how has he not been tried as a war criminal? Damn.
The answer (which I do not necessarily endorse) is that the Canadian government decided this particular division was not guilty, back in 1986:
So if he was found not guilty isn't there no issue here?
A reminder "not guilty" isn't "innocent", especially when there's fog of war involved. The dude was still in the Waffen SS.
Well, as far as I know, he was never personally investigated, but the division was, and they didn't find any conclusive evidence.
Either way, surely they could have found someone who didn't fight the Allies during WWII to make an appearance?
Yeah. This is a major gaffe. I've seen the odd post villanizing this dude in particular, which I'm not sure is called for. (I don't know it's not, but I'm hesitant to yell at a 90 year old over what uniform they wore when they were younger than I am now.) Regardless of who the dude is or was though, it's a bad look, and they do deserve to be called out on the eminently stupid oversight to not to the bare minimum of research before choosing someone to bring in.