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Time to get serious with E2E encrypted messaging (techcrunch.com)
submitted 10 hours ago by Morys@lemmy.ml to c/technology@lemmy.world
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I currently use Telegram for my friends and family, but have reluctantly come to the conclusion that the UK Government is either reaching agreement for backdoors with messaging services, or is trying its hardest to.

I'm also on Element/Matrix. Before I try to get my contacts to join me on there, should I be aware of any privacy issues or is that a good place to head?

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[–] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

Signal is easier to use, more private, and faster.

Unfortunately, it's also effectively tied to Google services due to the app distribution and push notification channels that Signal uses on Android (which most people on Signal have), and as a centralised service, it is vulnerable to shutdown or network-level metadata monitoring by anyone with sufficient access/influence at Signal or their data center provider (such as a government who doesn't like encrypted messaging).

~(Edit:~ ~rephrased~ ~for~ ~clarity)~

[–] jws_shadotak@sh.itjust.works 10 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

You can use Molly, a fork of Signal for android. It offers an alternative for push notifications.

[–] mac@lemm.ee 2 points 8 hours ago

Yep, I run my own mollysocket + ntfy server.

Essentially, molly socket functions as another device, when it recieves a notif, it pings your specified unified push server, which then queues up a notification for the ntfy app on your device.

You don't need to run your own unified push server, and can just use one of the main ones, but I figured I might as well.

I personally have them hosted on fly.io for free via the legacy hobby plan.

Now all I need to do is get more of my friends to message me on it 🤣

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

it's also effectively tied to Google services due to the app distribution

It's been recently added to FDroid.

and push notification channels

You can use NTFY with Molly (which has been on FDroid for some time).

network-level metadata monitoring by anyone with sufficient access/influence at Signal or their data center provider (such as a government who doesn't like encrypted messaging).

This one is just a straight-up lie. Everything on the server is encrypted and no one has the keys except the participants.