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[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today -1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

And you’re ignoring all the nuance explained there about why historians accept the existence of someone for what reason?

There's little to no nuance needed here: Is there evidence? No. Should there be? Yes.

You keep trying build strawmen as Im not claiming Jesus was divine. Why?

Because that's how credibility works. If you start your research at bad sources, you get to bad conclusions.

Does Xenu exist? I mean, Scientology at one point pre-internet, was one of the fastest growing religions, and they all talk about Xenu. Obviously, Xenu MUST exist, right?

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Are you trying to defend a strawman argument? Are you that daft?

Im not claiming the Bible is true dummy

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Are you trying to defend a strawman argument? Are you that daft?

No, I'm building on "credibility of sources". And the credibility for the sources of a single person, named Yeshua (Or Jesus, or Christ, or whatever) being the single person responsible for setting off the formation of a sect of judaism is... thin, to say the least.

In fact, most documents lack any credibility at all.

Let me ask you: Is it more likely the above scenario as laid out is accurate, or would it be more likely a group of reformists, started creating tall tales about things that happened, and speeches given, and every telling adding more fiction to each recounting, and possible a core group coming up with the "core story" of a man? Like how a group of people developed the persona of "Anonymous" back in 2007-ish? Or, do you believe there is a single person named "Anonymous" who did all the hacking and griefing too?

Basically, the latter is what I consider to be far more likely. Just like Hercules and John Mastodon. I do not believe either of those individuals spoken of all the time actually existed, and are rather an amalgamation of ideas, into one person. He is a meme. That's all.