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I recently had an exchange where the other person was trying to argue that meat consumption had nothing to do with production because production occures before consumption. I was talking to them for like a day but uh yeah. at that point I blocked them.
To an extent they're right but probably not in the way they intended to be. Government subsidies help ensure that animal ag can be profitable and incentivized regardless of consumption levels, and the ever-expanding amounts of land required for most animal ag and it's support infrastructure (eg feedstock production, a byproduct of industrial soy oil) literal fuel and are fueled by imperial expansion in a cyclic self-reinforcing fashion. If people stopped eating beef today without also protesting it's existence you'd probably see the animal ag industry continue to run on it's own fumes for years.
Yeah, to a certain extent that's true, but it's also the demand that creates the subsidies in the first place.
If all demand were to suddenly disappear (it won't), you're absolutely right, production would tend towards lingering on for quite a while. The best option in that sort of case would be for the producers to get paid to not produce. Governments shouldn't punish people for not being able to forsee every circumstance.
But that scenario is unrealistic. Transitions take time, and existing systems will have time to respond accordingly.
subsidies are one thing but I don't think its enough if it has to be thrown striaght into the trash.