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“But the police, who in the small town of Garner where Amazon is the biggest employer act as a kind of private security force, didn’t care and just took us off to jail.” (jacobin.com)

submitted 5 months ago by TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com to c/unions@lemmy.ml

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[+] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works -6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Once you start throwing class traitor and bootlicker around, you become the asshole. Don't become the asshole.

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Cops are literally class traitors. They are workers employed by the state to oppress workers in favor of bourgeois interests. They organize their efforts around protecting shops from perceived threats to profits - unhoused people just exustinfmg nearby, often the same for black people, teenagers just spending time together, etc. They are strikebreakers and the front line enforcing state-sponsored marginalization, itself a reflection of ruling class interests.

I am using the term correctly and it is not some kind of schoolyard insult.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Here's the problem with all that. You weren't calling cops class traitors, you were calling a fellow user a class traitor for suggesting that the left infiltrate the cops to counter the influence of the right, and thereby weaken or dismantle the institution.

So, you know, maybe don't pretend that's not what you were doing so you can pound your pulpit some more

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Here's the problem with all that. You weren't calling cops class traitors, you were calling a fellow user a class traitor for suggesting that the left infiltrate the cops to counter the influence of the right, and thereby weaken or dismantle the institution.

Actually I called what they said, "class traitor nonsense". Nonsense that is class traitor-ie. They are advocating for class traitorism.

So, you know, maybe don't pretend that's not what you were doing so you can pound your pulpit some more

As a general rule, I would recommend that you take paths of de-escalation when you get hints that you might be wrong.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Wait, are you actually claiming that advocating the risk of infiltrating an enemy organization is somehow a betrayal? That's just stupid.

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago

Nope. I am not speaking particularly vaguely.

Do you know what a class traitor is and how this term is used by the left re: cops? It is okay that you don't seem to. What is not cool is tripling down on being dismissive rather than trying to understand. You can ask me questions, for example.