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[–] stonedemoman@lemmy.world 129 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

streamers are currently being forced to reckon with their profitability — or lack thereof.

Netflix's 2023 2nd quarter revenue: 8.1 billion dollars BTW

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 54 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Brace yourself for a tidal wave of corporate apologists rushing to point out that “revenue isn’t profit!,!”

[–] ManosTheHandsOfFate@lemmy.world 61 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The number you're looking for is $1.49 billion in net income for Q2 2023.

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago (1 children)

See? Clearly not profitable, need more ads

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago

What's that? You want to share your four-screens-at-a-time account with three other people outside your house?

Fuck you, pay us more.

[–] uphillbothways@kbin.social 28 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Profit is the portion of revenue that is stolen from workers and given to shareholders. Profit is bad. Revenue is good.

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 30 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Unless you use that revenue to do stock buybacks, then it’s not considered profit but you still get to steal it from the workers. That way you can cry about unprofitability while all your shareholders and c suites crank up the exploitation of workers and consumers chasing “profitability” until the business collapses.

[–] uphillbothways@kbin.social 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Which is crazy, right? If a stock sale allows an investment in a business, a stock buyback should be a paying off of that debt, freeing more revenue in the future to be used explicitly to pay workers who generate that revenue. How the fuck that is justified in instead enriching the value of other investments still held by other investors shows the selective use of the analogy by corporate interests and that the whole house of cards is just bullshit.

[–] ripcord@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

For the most part, it's not given to the shareholders, either. Dividends are pretty rare these days (which is when stocks largely went from being an ownership investment to - mostly - a form of gambling)

[–] stonedemoman@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Anybody can look these numbers up. I'm not sitting on some secret Bloomberg terminal LOL

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Then why only mention revenue?

[–] stonedemoman@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I didn't realize people can't do a 10 second google search on their own. 🙄

Net income isn't the whole story anyways, especially when this article points out that one of their costs is lobbying for a cause that isn't necessary. They're raking in billions of dollars every year.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

"just Google it, bro" is never a source.

[–] stonedemoman@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not my fault you aren't capable of typing 4 words into a search engine.

It's not a 'source', bud.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] stonedemoman@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Did you know profitability =! Net income?

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes. Did you know that "just Google it, bro" isn't a source?

[–] stonedemoman@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Positing a claim =! positing a source. That's 0/2.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You can't count, either? That's rough, buddy.