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[–] stonedemoman@lemmy.world 129 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

streamers are currently being forced to reckon with their profitability — or lack thereof.

Netflix's 2023 2nd quarter revenue: 8.1 billion dollars BTW

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 54 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Brace yourself for a tidal wave of corporate apologists rushing to point out that “revenue isn’t profit!,!”

[–] ManosTheHandsOfFate@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The number you're looking for is $1.49 billion in net income for Q2 2023.

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

See? Clearly not profitable, need more ads

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

What's that? You want to share your four-screens-at-a-time account with three other people outside your house?

Fuck you, pay us more.

[–] uphillbothways@kbin.social 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Profit is the portion of revenue that is stolen from workers and given to shareholders. Profit is bad. Revenue is good.

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unless you use that revenue to do stock buybacks, then it’s not considered profit but you still get to steal it from the workers. That way you can cry about unprofitability while all your shareholders and c suites crank up the exploitation of workers and consumers chasing “profitability” until the business collapses.

[–] uphillbothways@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Which is crazy, right? If a stock sale allows an investment in a business, a stock buyback should be a paying off of that debt, freeing more revenue in the future to be used explicitly to pay workers who generate that revenue. How the fuck that is justified in instead enriching the value of other investments still held by other investors shows the selective use of the analogy by corporate interests and that the whole house of cards is just bullshit.

[–] ripcord@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For the most part, it's not given to the shareholders, either. Dividends are pretty rare these days (which is when stocks largely went from being an ownership investment to - mostly - a form of gambling)

[–] stonedemoman@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anybody can look these numbers up. I'm not sitting on some secret Bloomberg terminal LOL

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Then why only mention revenue?

[–] stonedemoman@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't realize people can't do a 10 second google search on their own. 🙄

Net income isn't the whole story anyways, especially when this article points out that one of their costs is lobbying for a cause that isn't necessary. They're raking in billions of dollars every year.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"just Google it, bro" is never a source.

[–] stonedemoman@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not my fault you aren't capable of typing 4 words into a search engine.

It's not a 'source', bud.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] stonedemoman@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did you know profitability =! Net income?

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes. Did you know that "just Google it, bro" isn't a source?

[–] stonedemoman@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Positing a claim =! positing a source. That's 0/2.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can't count, either? That's rough, buddy.