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Arch is aimed at people who know their shit so they can build their own distro based on how they imagine their distro to be. It is not a good distro for beginners and non power users, no matter how often you try to make your own repository, and how many GUI installers you make for it. There's a good reason why there is no GUI installer in arch (aside from being able to load it into ram). That being that to use Arch, you need to have a basic understanding of the terminal. It is in no way hard to boot arch and type in archinstall. However, if you don't even know how to do that, your experience in whatever distro, no matter how arch based it is or not, will only last until you have a dependency error or some utter and total Arch bullshit® happens on your system and you have to run to the forums because you don't understand how a wiki works.

You want a bleeding edge distro? Use goddamn Opensuse Tumbleweed for all I care, it is on par with arch, and it has none of the arch stuff.

You have this one package that is only available on arch repos? Use goddamn flatpak and stop crying about flatpak being bloated, you probably don't even know what bloat means if you can't set up arch. And no, it dosent run worse. Those 0,0001 seconds don't matter.

You really want arch so you can be cool? Read the goddamn 50 page install guide and set it up, then we'll talk about those arch forks.

(Also, most arch forks that don't use arch repos break the aur, so you don't even have the one thing you want from arch)

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[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 42 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I would, however, recommend Arch if you're a Linux novice looking to learn about Linux in a more accelerated pace.

[–] kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I would argue Gentoo is better suited for that. It is just compilation that can take a long time.

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Linux From Scratch or Slackware too.

[–] kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Bit of a different beast. Not something I would daily drive though. Slackware perhaps. But gentoo other then the docs being top notch and the learning experience being fairly streamlined. It is also a good distro for daily use.

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago

Gentoo's my daily driver.

[–] dino@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] TMP_NKcYUEoM7kXg4qYe@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

For novices Void is worse because it does not have the Arch wiki. The Void Docs are brief and you will inevitably end up reading the Arch wiki anyways, except you will run into Runit specific bs.

[–] dino@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Runit specific bs? You mean being simple and sane? lol And yes reading documentation is true for both. Also be aware of context.

[–] CarbonBasedNPU@lemm.ee 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

are there any good tutorials or something for void. I'm very interested because the name is cool but haven't found a good resource for learning.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 days ago

I’m very interested because the name is cool

Lol I love the honesty

[–] dino@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 days ago

I think their documentation is pretty solid, for everything else the reddit/internet searches can solve it. But as with EVERY DISTRO on this planet, the archwiki can be applied! You just need to know what are the differences from void to arch. (no systemd for example)