cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/26226188
cross-posted from: https://lemy.lol/post/39626252
We have to agree where we ARE before we stand a chance to agree about what we do from here.
this post was submitted on 02 Mar 2025
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you stop at you where lied to, you do not need to do the I told you so, you do not need to shame them. If you want to bring people on board you do not antagonize them more than you have to
But you do need to shame them! because if you don't they will continue to say the same nonsense. Trying to be nice failed. And do you really want these moron on your team Because i dont.
you need to persuade them, you do not need to shame them, there is a difrence, shaming them will only make them steadfast in their oposition to you.
I mean you can call me a centrist that would be wrong. What I am saying is that shaming the rank in file voter is not going to do anything but alianate them. but you do you, take the message of forgivness the post is trying to advocate. You seem to have a fundimental missunderstanding on what the goal is here, While I would agree that the message of this post would not work, I would say that your message is even worse somehow as you are offering no sollution except being even more insufferable.
Yes i misunderstood, because trying to find common ground with republican for the last 40years ended how ? With a litteral nazi in the white house! You give your hand and they take the whole arm. They are not interested in fact,logic and truth, they want to be right to dominate and to feel superior to someone, even if its hurting them in the long run. I want nothing to do with people that still call themselves Republicans after musk did A FUCKIN NAZI SALUTE AT THE INOGURATION. And even if they could see the light that trump should be jail for the rest of his life, what then do you think they will learn their lesson, that they will stop being racist, homophobic and sexist? That they will stop longing for the good old day of the confederacy, that they will stop electing conmen, that they will stop thinking of homeless people as good for nothing that deserve everything they got , that they will learn common decency and empathy? No, they will learn nothing, and wait for the next moral panic to pin the blame on the next random group of people that claim their ire. To reiterate there is no forgiveness for people who cheer at a litteral nazi salute in the white house.